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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Instagram is adding an AI ‘assistant’ to tell you how to post]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Instagram is the latest social media platform to add built-in AI-powered features that will give users feedback on their posts. The company announced Wednesday that its standalone Edits app will now include an AI “creative assistant” that pulls in data from a user’s Instagram account and offers suggestions on what to change. Using the new [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Instagram is the latest social media platform to add built-in AI-powered features that will give users feedback on their posts. The company announced Wednesday that its standalone Edits app will now include an AI “creative assistant” that pulls in data from a user’s Instagram account and offers suggestions on what to change.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Using the new assistant, creators can ask open-ended questions about what’s trending on Instagram, why one video worked and another didn’t, or what piece of content resonated most with their audience. The tool pulls in data and metrics such as likes, views, retention on videos, and shares. Instagram says it can spot patterns over time and give a creator suggestions that metrics alone can’t provide. Creators can also ask for ideas for content, how to hook viewers, what captions to use, which audio tracks are trending, and how to script videos.&nbsp;</p>

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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If that sounds familiar, it’s because YouTube also just announced updates to <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/778469/youtube-creators-ai-analytics-ask-studio-dubbing">its sprawling AI-powered dashboard</a> that tells creators how to maximize engagement. (YouTube’s version, which it initially announced in 2025, also has AI editing and A/B testing capabilities.) If you’ve been online for a while — and especially if you’ve ever had to pay attention to social media metrics — you’ll know that this is quite a shift. Historically, many platforms have limited or even hidden detailed metrics about how your own content is performing. The platforms certainly have not been open about why a video or post performed poorly. Tools like CrowdTangle, which researchers and journalists used to <a href="https://www.cjr.org/tow_center/meta-is-getting-rid-of-crowdtangle.php">monitor the most popular content on Meta platforms</a>, have been shut down or <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/08/business/media/tiktok-data-tool-israel-hamas-war.html">restricted</a>. Now, both YouTube and Instagram are effectively promising to give creators personalized advice on how to ride the algorithm.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It’s in both the platforms’ and creators’ best interest to shape content for maximum engagement. <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/999140/made-on-youtube-creator-tools-ai-thumbnails-tests">As I wrote earlier this month</a>, though, what happens when everyone is perfectly optimizing their content? Will content <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/26/24303161/amazon-influencers-lawsuit-copyright-clean-aesthetic-girl-sydney-nicole-gifford-alyssa-sheil">become even more similar</a> as creators adjust to one another? Is there no ceiling for the amount of time audiences are willing to spend on the platforms? The shift also raises interesting new questions about the relationship between tech companies and the creators that fill the platforms with things to look at: How does this dynamic change when platforms are straightforwardly giving creators instructions on how to post?</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The new feature is free for creators to use, up to a point. Meta says “power users” will be able to buy <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/995453/meta-one-subscriptions-ai">a Meta One subscription</a> for more usage. This, too, speaks to the changing winds: <a href="https://www.theverge.com/cs/features/991659/meta-mark-zuckerberg-future-glasses-ai-instagram/">Meta needs to finance its lofty AI ambitions</a>, and it’s already signaled that premium social media features may be part of how it does it. It’s not hard to imagine a future where meaningful feedback and AI-driven analytics and insights are for paying subscribers. In the end, it may end up re-creating the same frustrations and opaqueness that have plagued content creators for years — but this time, behind a paywall.</p>

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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[YouTube is building AI creator tools that do almost everything for them]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Part of the job of a content creator is to figure out how to get their work in front of the most people. Cracking — or fighting — the algorithm has historically been a frustration for creators, but YouTube is increasingly simply telling creators what they should do. At the annual creator-focused Made on YouTube [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Part of the job of a content creator is to figure out how to get their work in front of the most people. Cracking — or fighting — the algorithm has historically been a frustration for creators, but YouTube is increasingly simply telling creators what they should do.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">At the annual creator-focused Made on YouTube event, the company announced updates to the suite of AI-powered creator tools it <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/778469/youtube-creators-ai-analytics-ask-studio-dubbing">unveiled in 2025</a>. In its initial iteration, the dashboard of creator tools included things like A/B testing for video thumbnails and a chatbot interface to query how content was performing. This year’s update adds AI tools for more complex tasks.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Perhaps most significantly, YouTube is introducing an AI “agent” that will work in the background to optimize a creator’s channel. For example, the tool will monitor a creator’s back catalog of videos, looking for content that has taken on a new life, is relevant to the news, or has started trending. The agent will offer suggestions for tweaking the thumbnails or titles for older videos to ride the new wave of relevance. The tool can also put together things like pitches for brands by combing through a creator’s YouTube channel and pulling out demographic and audience data to make a case to potential sponsors, says Amjad Hanif, vice president of creator products at YouTube.</p>
<img src="https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/09/Creation-YT-Studio-Bundle-Get-Video-Feedback-and-Thumbnails-UX-Flow.gif?quality=90&amp;strip=all&amp;crop=0,0,100,100" alt="" title="" data-has-syndication-rights="1" data-caption="Creators can ask YouTube’s built-in AI tools for video feedback. | Image: YouTube" data-portal-copyright="Image: YouTube" />
<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The new features iterate on previously existing AI-powered tools. The agent will now generate entire thumbnails and titles based on the content of an uploaded video, and creators can ask the tool for feedback on their own thumbnails. Viewers may also see different content as creators run tests via YouTube Studio: A dynamic thumbnail tool allows creators to upload up to three different images for each video, and YouTube’s system will assign the best one to different audience segments to try to boost watch time. YouTube is taking it a step further, too, by allowing creators to test three different versions of videos — a clip with a different intro and hook, for example, or with a different structure — to see how each performs. The different versions of the same video will be fed to small audience segments to test which results in the highest watch time; creators can go forward with the “winner” to make it the permanent video, or YouTube will automatically do so after seven days. Hanif says the YouTube system ensures the three video versions are not &#8220;dramatically different” from one another.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">How content creators use AI has been a hot-button issue in some circles. Earlier this summer, Hank Green <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/973893/hank-green-says-his-youtube-channel-may-need-to-pause-after-admitting-to-relying-on-ai-for-research">angered fans</a> when he acknowledged that he had been relying on AI to do research for his videos. (Some observers <a href="http://theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/975531/is-generative-ai-actually-a-social-media-problem">diagnosed</a> Green’s problem as not one specifically about AI, but rather about overwork and burnout in the creator industry.) It’s not just Green who’s had to defend himself: There are countless <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjwz6yzn5jqo">stories</a> of <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/26/24186635/baggu-collina-strada-collaboration-ai-purses-art">brands</a> using <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/cliff-tan-youtube-ai-backlash-apology-interior-design-2026-8">or promoting</a> AI — or simply <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/taylor-swift-gen-ai-accusations-fans-promo-videos-rcna236025">being suspected</a> of doing so — that have spiraled into scandal. For many content creators or public figures, using AI in their work is a reputational risk; is using YouTube’s behind-the-scenes AI tools something they’re worried about? Hanif differentiates between instances where creators are using AI to be more efficient, versus when the tools are doing the actual job of a creator.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“What I&#8217;ve heard from creators and what I&#8217;ve seen from my own conversations with viewers is that when it feels like it&#8217;s not actually from the creator, but the tools have taken over and the tools are producing the content, I think that&#8217;s kind of where it crosses the line a bit,” Hanif says. Writing the script, shooting the scenes, wholesale creating the content — these are the types of AI use that might become a problem for creators and viewers, he says.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The real question is what tangible effects this suite of AI tools actually has on creator success. Have views exploded for YouTubers doing A/B testing? Does using the chatbot to plan or tweak content help creators connect more with what their audiences want to see? I asked YouTube and Hanif if they had data that shows the tools actually improving metrics for the creators who use them, but the company declined to share anything. What it does do, per Hanif, is save creators time.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“The time that we&#8217;ve saved there is time that goes back into the creativity,” Hanif says.</p>

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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Can you forget how you feel about Meta?]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[In 2021, as a whistleblower emerged with dramatic allegations that Facebook was harming children, CEO Mark Zuckerberg posted a rebuttal on Facebook. “We care deeply about issues like safety, well-being and mental health. It&#8217;s difficult to see coverage that misrepresents our work and our motives,” he wrote in a note to Meta staff, which he [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="has-drop-cap wp-block-paragraph">In 2021, as a whistleblower emerged with dramatic allegations that Facebook was harming children, CEO Mark Zuckerberg <a href="https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10113961365418581">posted a rebuttal on Facebook</a>. “We care deeply about issues like safety, well-being and mental health. It&#8217;s difficult to see coverage that misrepresents our work and our motives,” he wrote in a note to Meta staff, which he reposted publicly. “At the most basic level, I think most of us just don&#8217;t recognize the false picture of the company that is being painted.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Away from the stream of often inane public replies, one reader didn’t like what they saw. <a href="https://www.techemails.com/p/mark-zuckerbergs-whatsapp-messages">Zuckerberg spoke with the unidentified person privately on WhatsApp</a>, according to <a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.401490/gov.uscourts.cand.401490.2887.55.pdf">exhibits later released</a> as part of a series of lawsuits, and the figure urged Zuckerberg — a parent himself — to make child safety even more central in his messaging. “i am not saying facebook is duplicitous and evil,” they wrote. “i am saying the opposite, you have heard the chorus and will PERSONALLY make this issue over adolescents your issue.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In the privacy of the conversation, Zuckerberg was candid. “I care deeply about this and we’ll continue focusing on being industry-leading with young people,” he responded, “but I’m not going to say it’s my personal main focus when I have a number of other areas I’m more focused on like building the metaverse.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Zuckerberg later reiterated that “I personally care about this.” But he appeared ambivalent, nudging his conversation partner away from older concerns and toward his vision for the future. “How do you think this fits with our focus on promoting building the metaverse as the next major opportunity?” he asked. “That’s not at odds with safety, but it’s a much different and more innovation-focused message.” Weeks later, Zuckerberg made a huge announcement: The company was changing its name to Meta in honor of its newest, most important priority.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Years after that conversation, online child safety concerns have ballooned — while if anybody’s talking about the Metaverse, it’s likely as a multibillion-dollar money sink where <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/13/23403650/horizon-metaverse-legs-demonstration-motion-capture">nobody has legs</a>. But the exchange is a microcosm of how Zuckerberg has run Meta, a sprawling online empire worth well over a trillion dollars: by always chasing the next big opportunity. Facebook’s motto was once, famously, “Move fast and break things<em>.</em>” Its new one might be closer to <em>Move fast, break things, move on.</em></p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">For two decades, Meta’s products have been at the center of what people do online. But Meta now finds itself besieged on all sides. Lawsuits <a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/880850/social-media-lawsuits-meta-facebook-instagram-tiktok">have piled up</a> as regulators turn on social media. A push into smart glasses has <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/970948/meta-smart-glasses-privacy-wearables">triggered a mountain</a> of negative press and backlash —&nbsp;including the <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/985851/meta-privacy-loophole-fix-marketing-campaign">pejorative moniker</a> “pervert glasses.” The company remains firmly behind in the AI race. <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/19/how-americans-view-elon-musk-and-mark-zuckerberg/">Public perception</a> of Zuckerberg himself has curdled.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yet Meta is far from finished. It maintains a growing, highly profitable social media business. It’s dominant in AI-powered smart glasses, what many tech leaders consider the next mobile computing platform. It’s defused potential regulatory threats. And its latest platform, a “personal AI agent” dubbed Muse, was <a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/991216/meta-bets-on-ai-agent-muse-to-catch-up-in-ai-race">released in early September</a>, giving Zuckerberg his next metaverse-like project.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Muse is Zuckerberg’s latest bid to reinvent the company. Early numbers for Muse are promising; an <a href="https://x.com/alexeheath/status/2102066481161031812?s=20">Apptopia estimate</a> this week indicates it’s got over 600,000 daily active users in the US, shooting it to the top of the iOS App Store charts. Yet the question remains: Can a company synonymous with safety and privacy debacles become the AI-powered voice in everyone’s ear?</p>

<h2 id="the-glasses-gamble" class="wp-block-heading"><a href="#the-glasses-gamble">The glasses gamble</a></h2>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When Zuckerberg took the stage at Facebook Connect to announce that one of the most recognizable names in tech was getting a new identity, he was planting a flag. Facebook, the social media company known for its “big blue app”? That was the past. The future of the internet was the metaverse, an immersive 3D space where digital avatars could socialize, work, and collaborate, built on a virtual reality headset <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2014/3/25/5547456/facebook-buying-oculus-for-2-billion">the company acquired in 2014</a>. And after the covid pandemic’s mass shutdowns of physical space, Facebook believed in the metaverse so much that it would rebuild its entire identity around the niche world of virtual and augmented reality.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Nearly five years later, Meta’s Reality Labs division has accumulated <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/29/metas-reality-labs-lost-over-4-billion-in-first-quarter.html">over $80 billion in operating losses</a>. It kicked off this year by <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/861295/meta-reality-labs-layoffs-shift-to-wearables">cutting roughly 10 percent of that division</a>, <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/861420/meta-reality-labs-layoffs-vr-studios-twisted-pixel-sanzaru-armature">shuttering three VR studios</a>, discontinuing <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/863209/meta-has-discontinued-its-metaverse-for-work-too">the metaverse for work</a>, and announcing <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/881647/meta-vr-mobile-metaverse-horizon-worlds">it’d be shutting down Horizon Worlds</a>, its flagship metaverse experience, on VR headsets. Meta has since decided to keep Horizon Worlds going after public backlash, but it’s clear that Zuckerberg’s colossal gamble on VR hasn’t paid off.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But to call Meta’s investment an abandoned boondoggle isn’t quite accurate either. Meta dominates the nascent but growing smart glasses market, perhaps its biggest success story in recent years. The metaverse may not be the future of computing, but its augmented reality ambitions could still pay off.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Few expected the Ray-Ban Meta glasses to take off when they launched in 2023. After all, Meta’s first attempt, the Ray-Ban Stories in 2021, was a bona fide flop. <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/3/23818462/meta-ray-ban-stories-smart-glasses-retention-reality-labs">Ninety percent of owners left the glasses to rot</a> in their drawers. But improvements to cameras in the next-generation hardware helped Meta to sell roughly 2 million units — surprising even Zuckerberg. By the end of 2025, EssilorLuxottica — Meta’s partner in building these devices — had sold <a href="https://www.uploadvr.com/meta-essilorluxottica-sold-7-million-smart-glasses-in-2025/">an additional 7 million units</a>. All told, Meta and EssilorLuxottica reported that smart glasses sales <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-28/essilorluxottica-sales-miss-views-on-unsettled-global-climate">doubled in Q2 of 2026</a>.</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>Few expected the Ray-Ban Meta glasses to take off — but their success has surprised even Zuckerberg</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Most importantly, Zuckerberg and Meta leadership view this tech as the perfect vehicle for the company’s latest, shiniest interest: <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/30/zuckerberg-says-people-without-ai-glasses-will-be-at-a-disadvantage-in-the-future/">its AI investments</a>. So much so that Meta is aggressively trying to <a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/841536/smart-glasses-ai-glasses-xr-ar-headsets-terminology-wearables">brand these as AI glasses</a>.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“I think in the future, if you don’t have glasses that have AI — or some way to interact with AI — I think you’re probably [going to] be at a pretty significant cognitive disadvantage compared to other people and who you’re working with or competing against,” Zuckerberg said <a href="https://seekingalpha.com/article/4806454-meta-platforms-inc-meta-q2-2025-earnings-call-transcript">in a 2025 earnings call</a>.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta is still funneling billions into the AR space without profit, but that’s not necessarily disastrous. “There’s no true way to tell if [Meta] is successful or not. You could measure market share, and they absolutely have that, but that still doesn’t speak to profitability or if the spending to date is justified,” says Jitesh Ubrani, research director at IDC, noting that the runway for XR — the umbrella term for virtual, augmented, and mixed reality — is a notoriously long one.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">VR and the metaverse also had long runways that never paid off. But right now, the smart glasses market is building momentum, making it far too early to say whether it&#8217;s doomed to the same fate.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Looking at what numbers do exist, Meta is the undisputed king.<em> </em>According to IDC, Meta commands 69.2 percent of the smart glasses and headset market as of Q2 2026. That number jumps up to 76 percent of AI glasses without displays. That said, Ubrani argues that it’s unlikely that any company will see a return on investment in the next five years. It’s possible, he says, that could take as long as 25 years. Absent profit, the next best measure of success is often determined by who can afford to stay in the game long enough — while ignoring demanding investors — to influence the next chapter.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“In the XR market, I’d say that [Meta] is the leader in every segment they play in,” says Anshel Sag, principal analyst at Moor Insights &amp; Strategy. That can be a double-edged sword, though. “They’ve both been a steward of the XR and AR space, but they’ve also limited its potential because they control the platform, the spending, and they decided who were the winners and the losers by investing with their dollars.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Both Sag and Ubrani also agree that Meta wouldn’t currently be the leader in smart glasses or a major player in AI if not for its early, if flawed, investments in VR.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta’s success on this front has kicked off a race among tech companies. Google is pushing its Android XR platform, working with Samsung to launch several “intelligent eyewear” products later this year. <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2026-04-12/apple-ai-smart-glasses-features-styles-colors-cameras-giannandrea-leaving-mnvtz4yg"><em>Bloomberg</em></a> has reported that Apple is also working on a pair. Outside the major players, there are dozens of Ray-Ban dupes from smaller companies. Again, Ubrani says it’s difficult to put hard numbers on how much tech companies are pouring into this space — but whatever the cost, the prize is winning what Silicon Valley sees as the next big mobile computing platform.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Ubrani points to the smart glasses supply chain, where “<em>one</em> player who’s willing to invest no matter where the market is going” has massively changed the game. He contrasts that approach with Google, which retreated after criticism of its own glasses over a decade ago. “When people didn’t like [Google Glass], they scaled back significantly, and that in a sense, hurt the entire industry. Now with Meta, we’re seeing that even if Meta’s not making money, the industry is still moving forward.”</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>&#8220;Even if Meta’s not making money, the industry is still moving forward.&#8221;</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">On paper, it might seem Meta’s already won the battle for the next mobile computing platform. At least, if Meta weren’t Meta. While the company gained serious momentum in 2024 and 2025, it’s attracted a public backlash largely of its own making. Meta pushed its glasses as a way to make content for Instagram and other platforms, but failed to account for how bad actors might misuse its products. Online pickup artists and pranksters have started using the devices to <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meta-ai-smart-glasses-covert-filming-privacy/">harass women</a> <a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/982414/meta-glasses-work-surveillance-labor-security">and retail workers</a>, resulting in the “pervert glasses” label. The resulting videos are pushed to social media, where they effectively publicize the tech’s most troubling aspects. All this stokes roughly a decade’s worth of privacy concerns stemming from indiscriminate data collection, breaches, and advertising practices. It’s not just that Meta perhaps underestimated how its products could be misused. It already built a reputation for not taking privacy seriously.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In recent months, activists have launched guerrilla campaigns in major cities by “remixing” Meta’s own marketing, painting smart glasses users as privacy threats.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta has tried to demonstrate that it cares about privacy. “If people aren’t comfortable with you wearing the glasses, not only do we personally think that’s bad, but we wouldn’t have a business anymore,” Alex Himel, Meta’s VP of wearables, <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/954052/meta-glasses-hands-on-kylie-jenner-smart-glasses-price-battery-privacy">recently told <em>The Verge</em></a> ahead of <a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/962514/meta-privacy-light-tampering-smart-glasses-update">a mandatory update</a> that makes it harder to disable the LED light that alerts people that the headset is recording. Instagram head Adam Mosseri has also recently said Meta <a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/970901/instagram-meta-glasses-prank-harassment-ban">will take down prank videos</a> captured with the Ray-Ban glasses.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But these have been largely reactive policies. For the public, they look more like attempts to distract from unflattering news that feeds into Meta’s notorious privacy reputation. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/13/technology/meta-facial-recognition-smart-glasses.html?partner=slack&amp;smid=sl-share"><em>The New York Times</em></a> reported that Meta intended to launch facial recognition software during political unrest to throw off privacy advocates. That was soon followed by a <em>Wired</em> report that said <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/meta-smart-glasses-face-recognition-nametag-connections/">Meta had shipped</a> — but not activated — this facial recognition tech to millions of glasses. Rounding out the trifecta was <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/ac282450-91a8-4597-8f60-9e6ef416865a?syn-25a6b1a6=1">a <em>Financial Times</em> report</a> that Meta is working on “super sensing glasses” that will be able to see what you’re doing 24/7. Andrew Nazdin, director of Glasgow Actions Team, one of the groups behind the guerrilla campaigns, says it would be “foolish for us to let them police themselves instead of calling on society to reject this [tech].”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It’s too soon to say if this backlash has hurt Meta’s smart glasses ambitions. Ubrani says we likely won’t see any impact on sales — if there is one — until the holiday season. Even so, analysts aren’t convinced Meta’s bad reputation is enough to derail its hopes for smart glasses.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Meta’s done a very poor job of talking about privacy and setting the right tone,” acknowledges Sag. “But it’s funny because if you go [politically] far left or far right, people care more about privacy. In the middle, people care less and just want to have a good experience.”</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>&#8220;If you go [politically] far left or far right, people care more about privacy. In the middle, people care less and just want to have a good experience.&#8221;</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">As for public distrust of Zuckerberg, Sag says his thorny reputation may not sit well with the public, but it’s considered part of Meta’s strength in a niche space like XR.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Meta would not be where it is today if it weren’t for Mark Zuckerberg … Even if people disagree with him, ultimately what he wants is what gets done,” Sag says. “I think his fear of losing the AI race is what sparked the whole Superintelligence Lab, and now they’re back in the competition. He has blind spots, but he’s able to correct much more quickly than any other CEO founder … every time people have counted him out or questioned his leadership, he’s been able to claw the company back.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That unilateral doggedness is why Meta seems hell-bent on barreling forward with AI glasses, privacy qualms be damned. A few months ago, it released <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/954052/meta-glasses-hands-on-kylie-jenner-smart-glasses-price-battery-privacy">Meta Glasses</a>, a newer and cheaper version of the Ray-Ban glasses sans Ray-Ban branding. At a launch event, Meta CTO Andrew Bosworth told the press that Meta was contemplating audio-only glasses without cameras. It will likely launch even more new styles, collaborations, and potentially new hardware and privacy protections at Meta Connect 2026 this week.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Meta missed mobile, they missed VR when it first came out. The metaverse didn’t pan out the way they thought it would. That’s one of the reasons why we’re seeing them so determined and willing to spend to make AI glasses happen,” says Ubrani.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It’s unclear whether Meta can maintain its lead in the XR space. AI wearables are only just beginning to heat up, with players big and small eager to throw their hat in the ring across multiple form factors ranging from pendants to smartwatches. Meta only has glasses — and it’s tying the glasses’ success to the overall success of the company’s AI bets. And on that side of the business, things are looking like a hot mess.</p>

<h2 id="an-ai-shitshow" class="wp-block-heading"><a href="#an-ai-shitshow" data-type="internal" data-id="#an-ai-shitshow">An AI ‘shitshow’</a></h2>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Last summer, Zuckerberg attempted to lure top AI talent to supercharge his company’s lagging AI division. He offered a series of staggering pay packages, running up to <a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/meta-zuckerberg-ai-recruiting-fail-e6107555">$1 billion</a>, to join Meta’s Superintelligence Labs. But more than a year later, the company doesn’t have much to show for it besides <a href="https://www.meta.com/superintelligence/">two</a> <a href="https://www.meta.com/thefutureisforeveryone/">manifestos</a> published by Zuckerberg and the recently released Muse.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Zuckerberg may have inspired confidence among investors and analysts, but sources at or close to the company told <em>The Verge</em> that morale is down, AI initiatives are scattered at best, and the company’s AI strategy is running largely on vibes alone.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“It’s a shitshow,” says one longtime Meta employee, who works on Reality Labs and requested anonymity for fear of retaliation.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta dipped its toes into AI around its metaverse restructuring and released a small group of models. But focused on Zuck&#8217;s VR ambitions, it missed its competitors <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/30/fomo-drives-tech-heavyweights-to-invest-billions-in-generative-ai-.html">investing in upstarts</a> that would soon become AI giants. Its first frontier models were released in 2023 to lukewarm reception, and it wasn&#8217;t until the tepid response to Llama 4 in 2025 that the company jumped into the AI race with both feet.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That’s when Zuckerberg kicked off his AI hiring strategy in earnest, even hand-delivering soup to researchers and engineers he wanted to recruit from rivals and other industry heavyweights. In June 2025, Meta <a href="https://www.theverge.com/meta/685711/meta-scale-ai-ceo-alexandr-wang">invested $14.3 billion</a> in data-labeling company Scale AI and poached its CEO, Alexandr Wang, to lead Meta’s AI efforts. But <a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/703929/meta-openai-anthropic-superintelligence-lab-ai-poaching-money">many AI engineers</a> turned down Zuckerberg’s advances. Meta AI underwent wave after wave of reorganizations, and its superintelligence sub-team, TBD Lab, has reportedly <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/10/technology/meta-ai-tbd-lab-friction.html">clashed with Meta executives</a> over opposing goals.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">TBD Lab has reportedly sought to think longer-term and build best-in-class models to secure the company’s place among its competitors. But executives have reportedly remained focused on more platform-specific ways to drive revenue, like companion chatbots and social media features. Some attempts to integrate AI into platforms like Instagram have drawn backlash — it <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/964416/meta-instagram-ai-muse-image-deepfakes">briefly launched and then suspended</a> a controversial Instagram deepfakes generator, and said it “missed the mark” on an AI tool that provided <a href="https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/mother-horrified-meta-ai-family">creepily detailed information</a> about a user’s children.</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>&#8220;Every time a new technology comes that could potentially augment the company’s revenue stream beyond ads, the company kind of goes manic.&#8221;</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta’s most prestigious AI team is a “total mess,” according to <em>Wired </em>reports <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/mark-zuckerberg-meta-employee-meeting-interrupt-ai/">that describe</a> internal chaos and ever-changing strategy. Zuckerberg reportedly admitted to employees during an <a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/zuckerberg-says-ai-agent-development-going-slower-than-expected-2026-07-02/">internal town hall</a> this summer that progress on AI agents was slower than expected. On a recent Meta earnings call, an analyst told executives he had been fielding questions from investors about Meta’s amount of debt compared to capital, as the company ramped up its spending to try to get ahead in the AI race. Zuckerberg has also been criticized for <a href="https://www.reuters.com/investigations/mark-zuckerberg-had-bold-plan-replace-meta-staff-with-ai-heres-how-it-imploded-2026-08-26/">slashing team sizes</a> to reportedly replace a significant number of employees with AI systems, per Reuters.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The current employee says Meta has a bad habit of jumping from hype cycle to hype cycle: “Every time a new technology comes that could potentially augment the company’s revenue stream beyond ads, the company kind of goes manic in order to invest and to change and to grow, to incorporate this new technology. It happened with crypto. It happened with VR and the metaverse. It’s happening now with AI. I think it stems from a lack of maturity of our founder [and] a lack of maturity of our leadership.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A former Meta employee, who also requested anonymity, echoes those thoughts: “Like most big tech, there&#8217;s just been such a big push to AI-ify everything &#8230; but it&#8217;s basically a laughingstock internally.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In a May <a href="https://www.corememory.com/p/metas-ai-chief-alex-wang-muse-spark-ai-wars">podcast interview</a>, Wang denied that he and Zuckerberg had been fighting a lot, saying leaders at the company know frontier model development and product integration are both important. But, he added, “like any company … we debate the points deeply.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But the current employee says Meta’s AI strategy simply isn’t based in the reality of the business or what its customers actually want. “There’s a whole different planet between what the C-suite is talking about and what&#8217;s happening on the ground,” they say, later adding, “That tension is literally at the core of the problem at Meta … building AI for the sake of having the biggest building or the biggest fucking dildo versus building a useful product.”&nbsp;</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>Meta has spent an extraordinary amount on AI, but it&#8217;s made few waves in the industry</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Zuckerberg’s <a href="https://www.meta.com/thefutureisforeveryone/">latest manifesto</a> — in which he lays out his vision of superintelligence that people use “to create and discover extraordinary new things, build new businesses, express new ideas, learn new concepts, and advance our health and quality of life” —&nbsp;didn’t make many waves in the broader AI industry. And so far, the features Meta has added to smart glasses and the products it’s rolled out haven’t broken through compared to the company’s biggest rivals. Given the early usage statistics, Muse could break this pattern — but it’s too early to know.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Noah Smith, senior director of NLP research at the Allen Institute for Artificial Intelligence (Ai2), says the manifesto “reads to me a bit like PR … I also didn’t find anything particularly surprising there, or new.” Instead, Smith found himself asking what is going on behind the scenes to make Zuckerberg publicly state all this now.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Zuckerberg’s manifesto also wasn’t received well internally, according to the current and former Meta employees <em>The Verge</em> spoke with. In particular, the current employee says it’s a typical example of putting the cart before the horse.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“The manifesto did not articulate the biggest question,” he says. “What will AI do for our business as an advertising business? What is the benefit in terms of return on investment on the hundreds of billions of dollars that we’re spending? We don&#8217;t even have a product play.” He adds that even after Meta’s massive investments, he wouldn’t rank his own company in the top three of AI players — and that that’s reflected by the fact that engineers at the company don’t typically prioritize using Meta’s own AI models, instead using models from Anthropic, OpenAI, and Chinese AI companies.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">He says that after Meta announces a new AI model internally, people will try it out for a little bit and then typically go back to using Anthropic’s Claude models; he compares employees using MetaAI to children goaded into eating their vegetables.</p>
<img src="https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/09/268630_META_FALLING_APART_CVIRGINA_SPOT_6.png?quality=90&amp;strip=all&amp;crop=0,0,100,100" alt="" title="" data-has-syndication-rights="1" data-caption="" data-portal-copyright="" />
<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“I think if we actually cared about developing AI well, we would have everyone just use [our] AI and constantly give feedback,” he says. “That would be monumental. But likely we would take a productivity hit in other ways.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Overall, “morale is in the gutter,” the current employee says. “People do not trust leadership. I get a strong sense that <em>leadership</em> doesn’t even trust <em>Mark</em> in his direction.” They add that employees feel the company is spying on them and forcing AI into everything, and amid restructuring and layoffs, workers are “tired of the pizza parties” and haven’t seen any movement on top internal complaints, like problematic incentive structures, misuse of tokens, and pace of work.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The former employee says that colleagues at the company feel that it’s “like the Metaverse 2.0,” and though Zuckerberg bought some of the best AI talent in the world, “still, they don’t have a thing that anybody wants.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A lot of people at Meta, the employee says, think it&#8217;s an inevitability that the company will drop its AI efforts the same way it sidelined its metaverse ones.&nbsp;</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>Meta is betting on giving users free, easily packaged access to agentic AI, but its position in the industry is tenuous</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“It’s not going to be framed [as him] abandoning anything,” the current employee says. “They were going to turn off Horizon Worlds, and Zuck got wind of it and he said they need to keep it on even though it’s a money-suck … Zuckerberg does not want to admit defeat. But there will be a strategic pivot … away from this manic AI spending to whatever is next, maybe a derivative of AI, maybe more wearable stuff.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Muse is the next step in Zuckerberg’s plans: a move from straightforward language and image models toward more practically useful agentic AI. It’s betting on giving users free, easily packaged access to the kinds of tools that might previously have required dedicated hosting machines or cost hundreds of dollars a year. But it’s too early to tell if users will trust Meta with the keys to their digital lives. Meanwhile, Meta’s position in the industry’s top tier appears as tenuous as ever.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In response to questions from <em>The Verge</em>, Meta spokesperson Alex Dziedzan said that &#8220;at Meta, our philosophy is simple: let our teams deliver. We encourage you to check out Connect to learn more.&#8221;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta is still trying to convince investors — and the tech industry more broadly — that its relatively nascent AI business has legs. In the meantime, the company is fighting to retain control of its true money machines and the original business proposition: pumping users’ social media feeds, particularly on its flagship Instagram, with whatever keeps them engaged.</p>

<h2 id="the-cash-cow" class="wp-block-heading"><a href="#the-cash-cow" data-type="internal" data-id="#the-cash-cow">The cash cow</a></h2>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Four years ago, Instagram teased what would become perhaps its most reviled change to date: an “immersive” experience where photos and videos took up a user’s full screen and filled it with content from accounts a user didn’t follow. The feature was blatantly ripped from TikTok, its newer, more ruthless competitor, and to many users, the update represented a betrayal of Instagram’s core social elements.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Tati Bruening saw something worth saving in Instagram’s earlier, actually social, peer-to-peer communication platform. The photographer and creative tapped into widespread resentment and frustration, posting a graphic that was simple and to the point: “MAKE INSTAGRAM INSTAGRAM AGAIN,” it read. “Stop trying to be tiktok i just want to see cute photos of my friends. Sincerely, everyone.” Kim Kardashian and Kylie Jenner, titans of attention-based online economy, <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/25/23277879/kylie-jenner-kim-kardashian-instagram-redesign-app-updates">reposted Bruening’s graphic</a>. An online petition racked up hundreds of thousands of signatures. Eventually, the heat became too much to bear, and Instagram <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/29/23282330/instagram-reels-backlash-tiktok-adam-mosseri">rolled back the changes</a>. But it was only kicking the can down the road; this was the beginning of the end of an era.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Several years on, watching vertical videos of strangers is a cornerstone of social media, including Instagram. And Bruening has a new perspective, having seen platforms rise and fall and upend her job.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“This is going to be the most shocking thing to hear coming out of my mouth, but I think in terms of all of the creator platforms, [Instagram] is going to be the one that makes it out of this era,” Bruening says.</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>&#8220;I think in terms of all of the creator platforms, Meta is going to be the one that makes it out of this era.&#8221;</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta (as Facebook) acquired Instagram in 2012 for approximately $1 billion, and it eclipsed the company’s then-eponymous blue app in relevance years ago. Central to the creator industry, celebrity culture, and lifestyle content, Instagram is a cash cow for Meta: eMarketer estimates it will pull in $52 billion in US ad revenue this year, compared to Facebook’s $48 billion. For the last few years, it’s been playing catch-up not only to TikTok but to a whole internet where people spend less time connecting with friends and relatives and more on an algorithmically sorted recommendation feed.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yet along with its rival YouTube, Bruening says, Instagram remains one of the few social media platforms that’s been somewhat stable. Snapchat no longer serves creators, and TikTok is too filled with slop and TikTok Shop content. Meta may have turned its photo app into a vertical video slot machine, but at least it rewards the creators who obey — if you make shortform videos, Instagram will show them to someone.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Creators and brands still see Instagram as the prestige, more polished platform where most advertising spend goes, says Lia Haberman, an influencer marketing expert who writes <em>ICYMI, </em>a social media newsletter. Whatever lead TikTok had in shortform content a few years ago has narrowed or even closed. The <a href="https://www.theverge.com/23651507/tiktok-ban-us-news">threat of TikTok disappearing from the US</a> made advertisers nervous, Haberman says; creators started to think about backup plans and diversifying their platforms and online presence. When brands ask creators for deliverables — the assets and content that they want an influencer to post — Instagram Reels and Stories are typically first on the list, in Haberman’s experience.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Instagram is Meta’s cultural crown jewel, but the company is trying to diversify its revenue through other apps, too. Meta has tried to pull more creators onto Facebook <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/18/meta-creator-pay-instagram-tiktok-youtube-facebook.html">with cash incentives</a>. The company’s massive messaging platform WhatsApp remains popular, especially outside the US; executives said subscriptions and paid messaging drove record non-advertising revenue. Threads, the X competitor,<a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/950480/meta-threads-500-million-monthly-active-users-communities-your-algo"> reached 500 million monthly users</a> this summer, but it still feels a bit like the black sheep — in earnings reports, Meta’s “family of apps” is defined as “Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, WhatsApp, and other services.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The company has introduced a slew of other apps, like standalone platforms for<a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/936290/meta-forum-facebook-groups-app-hands-on"> Facebook groups</a> and<a href="https://about.fb.com/news/2026/07/introducing-seller-app-facebook-marketplace/"> Marketplace</a>, with leadership saying<a href="https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/30/meta-says-ai-is-making-it-easier-to-build-new-apps-and-more-are-coming/"> AI is speeding up development</a>.</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>&#8220;Social media is saturated in many ways. The hyper growth days for Meta are over.&#8221;</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But despite Zuckerberg’s <a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/977623/mark-zuckerberg-ai-manifesto-dim-vision">soliloquies on an AI-powered future</a>, Meta is at its core in the business of serving ads, and that business is still booming: The company reported in July that its revenue from advertising <a href="https://www.marketingdive.com/news/meta-touts-industry-leading-ad-revenue-growth-but-ai-unease-rises/826583/">grew</a> 27 percent year over year. Some projections show Meta’s ads business <a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/meta-poised-surpass-google-digital-ad-revenue-first-time-report-says-2026-04-13/">surpassing Google’s by the end of 2026</a>.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The bigger problem is the people it shows those ads to, and the content it puts those ads in between. The average social media user is less interested than they once were in posting, and Meta’s access to a new generation of users is under threat.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“There is sort of a tension brewing where we&#8217;re seeing this double-digit growth in their ad spend, but we are not seeing double-digit growth when it comes to overall usage [in the US],” Minda Smiley, senior analyst at eMarketer, says of advertisers’ spending patterns. “I think that just really speaks to the fact that social media is saturated in many ways. The hyper growth days for Meta are over.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">People in general are now using social media to consume content rather than share it; a Morning Consult poll<a href="https://intel.morningconsult.com/mc-content/analysis/who-is-posting-on-social-media-2025"> found</a> that a third of respondents say they post less on social media compared to last year. What’s more, entire generations of young people are logging off or forcibly being logged off.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The past few years have seen <a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/962823/childrens-public-internet-child-safety-proposal">bipartisan</a>, <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/964565/eu-children-social-media-online-safety-rules">multinational</a>, and <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/961051/support-for-a-social-media-ban-for-kids-under-16-cuts-across-party-lines">cross-generational</a> support for either limiting minors’ access to social media or banning them altogether. When kids can get online, Gen Z and Gen Alpha don’t want to express themselves fully on the social media sites their parents or relatives are on, and what’s more, they want in-person experiences, Haberman says. They want to touch grass.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Katie Harbath, a former Meta public policy director who now runs tech policy consultancy Anchor Change, says that there’s a small point of relief for Meta here, though: Kids aren’t how they’re making their money. <a href="https://businesstats.com/facebook-global-user-age-distribution/">Data compiled by research platform BusinessStats</a> primarily from Facebook’s Ads Manager found that about 3.2 percent of Facebook’s global audience was between the ages of 13 and 17. On Instagram, using a similar dataset, that share was slightly higher, but still just 5.8 percent of the app’s global audience, according to BusinessStats.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“If all of a sudden they can&#8217;t have kids under 18 on, it&#8217;s not great, but it&#8217;s also not the vast majority of the people that are on the platform,” Harbath says.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But Meta will eventually need those users — it can’t dine off the social media habits of older generations forever. What happens to Meta if its user base peters out, and advertisers follow? A reckoning could be coming in two to three years, Haberman says, if these trends continue as Gen Alpha comes of age.</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>Teen users are a tiny part of Meta&#8217;s business — but losing the next generation is something it can&#8217;t afford</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“I&#8217;m not sure that we&#8217;ve really fully grasped yet how much of a big deal that this could be once audiences stop showing up or audiences age out,” Haberman says. “Essentially, it&#8217;s going to become kind of a graveyard for millennials, Gen X, and boomers.” The implications are manifold — for the social platforms themselves, naturally, but also for the advertisers, brands, and influencers who’ve taken for granted that social media is an effective way to reach people.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The elephant in the room is AI — <a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/wall-street-thinks-it-knows-how-tech-giants-will-make-ai-pay-96f76438">Meta’s costly buildouts and investments</a>, of course, but also the question of how to handle AI content on the platform, and how much of it users actually want. <a href="https://s21.q4cdn.com/399680738/files/doc_financials/2026/q2/META-Q2-2026-Earnings-Call-Transcript.pdf">On its second quarter earnings call</a>, Zuckerberg said the company would soon be able to provide a “nearly infinite universe of personalized content” to users through its image and video generation tools, to supplement content from influencers, creators, and users’ friends and family. AI content is cheap, fast, and replaceable, made to be chewed up and spit out as long as the algorithms will allow it to be served up. This is what creatives like Bruening are competing against.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“You would have to become an AI robot in order to keep up with a lot of the metrics and standards for what [Meta’s] best practices are,” Bruening says. “A human artist is not going to have the same level of output as an AI machine that&#8217;s going to appease the algorithm.” How far can Meta push the human creators before they decide they no longer want to compete with their automated counterparts?</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Much like Meta, creators are constantly chasing the next big thing, trying to weather shifting societal expectations and tastes. For individual creators, a failure to adapt can be career-ending; Meta now finds itself in similar precarious footing. But concerns about how people use social media aren’t just a matter of business. They’re the object of serious inquiry for lawmakers across the world — all bent on reining in what they see as one of the tech industry’s most dangerous players.</p>

<h2 id="a-social-reckoning" class="wp-block-heading"><a href="#a-social-reckoning">A social reckoning</a></h2>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Over the past decade, Meta has become one of the biggest punching bags in politics — and its CEO the face of a callous, out-of-touch, and exploitative “Big Tech.” Zuckerberg, Mosseri, and other executives have been dragged before congressional committees and juries and berated for a perceived carelessness toward kids’ safety and disinformation, a ruthless crushing of competition, and even complicity in <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/20/17595478/whatsapp-message-forwarding-end-violent-lynching-india">lynching</a> and <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/23/22689559/facebook-rohingya-myanmar-official-data-order-gambia-genocide-trial">genocide</a>. But through each PR crisis, Meta has somehow still found its footing, and in many cases, dodged the worst-case outcomes.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta grew to massive scale and influence in part through two key acquisitions: its purchases of Instagram in 2012 and WhatsApp in 2014. But by 2020, those deals became the focal point of a major antitrust lawsuit seeking to break up the company. Since then, Meta’s acquisitions and competitive actions have faced intense scrutiny in the US and around the world, and its dealmaking leveled off. In 2020, it closed 10 acquisitions worth a total of $1.37 billion, according to data compiled by PitchBook; as it fought monopolization claims, its deal count and value dropped each year through 2024.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But for the most part, the company has weathered regulatory pressure, and Meta’s dealmaking picked up again in 2025. Meta <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/823191/meta-ftc-antitrust-trial-ruling">won against the FTC’s anti-monopoly claims</a>, and it was <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/1/23575041/meta-within-vr-acquisition-ftc-antitrust-lawsuit-injunction-denied">allowed to buy the virtual reality fitness startup Within</a> after the FTC took it to trial (a few years later, it announced it would <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/861420/meta-reality-labs-layoffs-vr-studios-twisted-pixel-sanzaru-armature">stop making content</a> for Within’s flagship game, only to later<a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/941816/supernatural-health-meta-quest-vr"> spin it off</a>).</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>Through political crisis after political crisis, Meta has dodged the worst-case outcomes</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Long-standing fears about Meta’s data collection efforts also reached a boiling point in 2018, when reporters uncovered evidence that London elections consultancy Cambridge Analytica had harvested millions of Facebook profiles to analyze and target users with pro-Trump messaging in 2016. That led to a flood of calls among users to #DeleteFacebook, even <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/20/17145200/brian-acton-delete-facebook-whatsapp">from Brian Acton</a>, cofounder of WhatsApp.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But Zuckerberg later <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/technology/mark-zuckerberg-q-and-a.html">told <em>The New York Times</em></a> that the movement <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/22/17152922/delete-facebook-boycott-cambridge-analytica-tech-monopoly-data-privacy">hadn’t resulted in any “meaningful” defection</a> from the platform. In Europe, Meta was ordered to make changes impacting its ad-targeting practices after a <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/22/23732461/meta-eu-privacy-fine-us-data-transfers-1-3-billion">$1.3 billion fine</a>, but in the US lawmakers are still unable to agree on an industry-wide data privacy law.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">While President Donald Trump <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-describes-presidency-new-book-rcna168910">once threatened to throw Zuckerberg in prison for life</a>, the CEO seems to have successfully gotten on the Trump administration’s good side after <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/7/24338062/facebook-instagram-threads-meta-abandon-fact-checking">ditching the fact-checking program the president had criticized</a>, <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/10/24340846/meta-disbands-diversity-dei-team-charged">disbanding its diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) team</a>, and agreeing to a <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/602577/meta-trump-facebook-lawsuit-settlement">$25 million settlement</a> over Trump’s lawsuit for suspending his account. Meanwhile, Meta’s apps benefited from <a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/659102/tiktok-ban-meta-antitrust-trial-instagram">the brief ban of TikTok</a> in the US, though Trump cut that period short through repeated enforcement delays. Meta’s courting of the Trump administration may leave it ripe for scrutiny under a Democratic administration, but meaningful consequences could remain years away, if they come at all.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Most recently, Meta’s most pressing policy challenge has been child safety. For the first half of the year, it appeared to be caught on its back foot. Two juries issued decisive blows to the company, resulting in close to a billion dollars in fines across an <a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/900654/meta-google-instagram-youtube-social-media-addiction-trial-kgm-jury-decision">individual plaintiff’s case in Los Angeles</a> and a <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/976537/meta-new-mexico-cild-safety-fine-public-nuisance">case brought by New Mexico’s attorney general</a>. But the New Mexico judge later declined to impose the most disruptive structural changes the AG had asked for.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">On the surface, a landmark settlement with 47 other state AGs in August looked even worse for Meta. The settlement included significant changes: new age assurance benchmarks, a two-hour daily usage limit (with exceptions for messaging and longform content), and default restrictions on nighttime and school hour notifications for teens.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But it also presented Meta an opportunity to turn attention onto its rivals. The company called on TikTok, YouTube, and Snap to adopt similar limits, and it tied part of its settlement payout to their actions. This helped Meta twice over: It could put a target on its competitors’ backs while mitigating the potential negative business impact of its own deal.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">New child safety regulations could end up helping Meta as well. eMarketer forecasts that Snap and TikTok would feel more of a hit than Meta if a nationwide classroom cellphone ban, another popular proposal, went into effect. TikTok would lose out on more than $1.25 billion in ad revenue this year, the firm estimates, and Snap’s ad revenue would be especially vulnerable because of the high concentration of teens on the platform who use the app throughout the day. A hit on Meta’s revenue, meanwhile, would “hardly register,” eMarketer says, thanks to its scale.</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>Meta could lose out under child safety regulations — but its competitors might lose more</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Even so, Meta’s legal battles over kids’ safety aren’t over. Meta and other tech companies still face thousands of lawsuits from individual plaintiffs and school districts, likely culminating in a blanket settlement. The scope of cases and potential penalties is so large that it’s difficult to understand exactly how much risk they carry. It would take quite a lot for Meta to feel the sting, but the billions in settlements and court orders are beginning to add up.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta has already invested huge sums into fighting these cases. In the second quarter alone, it took a $2.4 billion charge over litigation expenses. Prior to Meta’s recent settlement with state AGs, Peter Chapman, deputy director of the Knight-Georgetown Institute, said that “suggests to me that they&#8217;re playing a long game” around the First Amendment and online liability shield Section 230.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Following the settlement news, Chapman says he still sees it as early days amid the mountain of litigation before Meta and other tech companies, but “the long game certainly has changed.” Now it seems to include targeting industry competitors to get on board with the terms Meta already accepted, while a fight to preserve its protections under Section 230 will likely continue through appeals of the earlier cases Meta lost.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta’s settlement may bring some solace to investors who were unsure how to price in its legal risk. After the news of the deal, its stock price shot up. “The state AGs got an okay deal. I don&#8217;t think they knocked it out of the park,” says Paul Gallant, a tech policy analyst at investment bank TD Cowen. As a result, Meta shareholders should have “confidence that the company knows how to manage the government.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The $17 billion settlement represents an “immaterial” amount for Meta, Gallant says. In the <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/29/meta-q2-earnings-report-2026.html">last quarterly earnings report</a>, Meta said it made more than $60 billion. But additional cases still present some risk, and large fines may be more of a problem today than when the European Union levied them in the past. “The companies are spending so much on AI infrastructure that cashflow is a bigger focus of Meta&#8217;s stockholders, especially if the damage awards get into the tens of billions or more,” Gallant says. And unlike the tactics at its disposal to fight off impending legislation, Gallant adds, “of all of the features of the US governmental system, the least controllable by Meta is juries.”&nbsp;</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>&#8220;These massive trials are happening against this company, and then what is Mark Zuckerberg doing? Putting out an AI manifesto.&#8221;</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">State and local governments also appear ready to take on tech while federal efforts stall, including in Meta’s latest area of focus, AI. Many are looking at how they can rein in AI and deal with the energy demands it creates on their electrical grids. Data centers have become a flashpoint across the country, and a nationwide push for a slowdown could be particularly meaningful for Meta and other businesses in the AI race. “That&#8217;s the thing that could really not just slow them, but slow everybody down — having enough compute,” says Harbath. “We talk so much about what happens at the federal level, but I actually think the biggest risk to Meta and these tech companies right now is at the hyper-local level.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Zuckerberg has become the face of many of these battles, testifying for hours before policymakers and juries, and even standing up in Congress to <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/31/24057171/watch-mark-zuckerbergs-apology-to-families-at-todays-social-media-hearing">apologize to parents</a> who lost children after battles with online harms. The public testimonies have largely not seemed to endear him any further to his critics.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“It&#8217;s almost like this bizarre disconnect where these massive trials are happening against this company, and then what is Mark Zuckerberg doing? Putting out an AI manifesto,” Smiley, the analyst at eMarketer, says. “It&#8217;s sort of like, ‘What planet are you on?’ It just feels like there&#8217;s just this big disconnect.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Whether it will matter is another unresolved question.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Despite the litany of PR problems, user frustrations, legal troubles, and internal personnel conflict, Meta still feels like an immovable force. It has managed to sidestep, acquire, and pivot its way out of scandals and blowups that would have sunk most other companies. It’s spending lavishly on its new, AI-powered future.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But that future remains far from certain. Smart glasses are unproven, its AI labs are behind newer upstarts, the legal landscape is hostile, and it may be hitting its ceiling in finding new users.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What does seem certain is that its CEO will never stop chasing the next big thing. “Zuckerberg has this kind of monkey on his back,” says the current Meta employee. “He&#8217;s willing to experiment with the company because he controls the company.”</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[I went to the loneliest baseball game on Apple Vision Pro]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[This weekend, I strapped on an Apple Vision Pro to watch a baseball game in immersive virtual reality for the first time. It was technically impressive, visually pretty remarkable, and also didn’t make that much sense. Apple and Major League Baseball chose a classic match-up of the Boston Red Sox and the New York Yankees [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This weekend, I strapped on an Apple Vision Pro to watch a baseball game in immersive virtual reality for the first time. It was technically impressive, visually pretty remarkable, and also didn’t make that much sense.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Apple and Major League Baseball chose a classic match-up of the Boston Red Sox and the New York Yankees for <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/977199/apple-will-stream-friday-night-baseball-live-in-vision-pro">the first of its series of four games</a> streamed <a href="https://www.theverge.com/24054862/apple-vision-pro-review-vr-ar-headset-features-price">on the device</a>. I do not review tech for <em>The Verge</em>, but I do watch a lot of baseball — if there’s a game on and I’m at home, it’s likely on my television. If this is the future of sports, live events, and wearable technology in general, I’d like to see what all the fuss is about.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The first thing to know about baseball is that it is long: in season, in game time, and in the arc of history. Right off the bat, this reality makes having a screen strapped to your face a hard sell. It’s not just the physical burden — like many others, I find the Vision Pro heavy and cumbersome — but also because it’s a time-honored tradition to get up and go do something else for a moment while the game is on. It’s America’s <em>pastime</em> for a reason: the slowness, the buildup, the culmination of a long, sticky season where teams slump and get hot. Some nights are duds and <a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/814483/world-series-dodgers-blue-jays-fandom-social-media">others are classics</a>; you are playing (and watching) the long game. Even at the ballpark, you might get up to grab food or another beer, and the seventh inning stretch is built right into live play to give fans a break. With an immersive environment, I struggled with whiplash; coming in and out of the headset’s reality, going from zero to one hundred and back again anytime I wanted to grab a drink, walk around, or eat dinner.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That said, the first time I put on the Vision Pro to watch the pregame show, I screamed — it’s surreal to see the players so close, from a new, intimate angle and proximity. It was arresting, surprising, and a little scary. As Yankees starting pitcher Cam Schlittler was warming up in the bullpen, all I could think was, “He really is so tall.” A pregame interview with Jazz Chisholm Jr. made me feel like I was standing uncomfortably close to him. The broadcast on Apple Vision Pro was clearly tailored to an audience who might not be as familiar with MLB or baseball in general: There was a lot of explaining how to watch the game, and many shoutouts to the Vision Pro viewers, of course. </p>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-dnt="true"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Live immersive MLB on Apple Vision Pro. It felt like I was at Yankee Stadium. The whole experience was incredible.<br><br>Shot through the lens with iPhone since it can’t be recorded on headset. <a href="https://t.co/oF1J9tBTd8">pic.twitter.com/oF1J9tBTd8</a></p>&mdash; Justin Ryan (@justinryanio) <a href="https://x.com/justinryanio/status/2093703342044389435?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2026</a></blockquote>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The feeling of being terrifyingly close didn’t last very long, though. On Vision Pro, you watch the game primarily from two angles, next to each team’s dugout when that team is batting (you’re stuck there, you don’t get to move around as you please). I liked this angle for certain batters, because you can see the vertical movement of pitches come in without anything blocking them. But for say, a righty batter whose team is watching from the third base dugout (or a lefty whose team is watching from the first base side), their body partially obstructs the view. The immersive view also doesn’t track the action in the outfield — your perspective is frozen next to the dugout. As a result, I felt both in the thick of it and at a strange remove; even ground balls and infield plays feel a bit far away, especially if you’re watching from the third base side and there’s traffic on first and second base.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The immersive broadcast includes a floating jumbotron-style screen that shows a more traditional TV broadcast, along with player stats. I often found my attention drifting up to the standard broadcast, because once the ball leaves the vicinity of the batter, it’s quite hard to track what’s actually going on. The immersive replays from new vantage points like the outfield or closer to first base helped to bridge the feeling of being at a distance. But the Vision Pro’s view isn’t very reactive to what’s happening in real time. When Red Sox second baseman Nick Sogard hit a fly ball early in the game, it almost was a home run — but the immersive view was not very compelling. Baseball is full of weird moments, and it made me wonder how well those would be captured on the Vision Pro. What would the benches clearing in a heated moment look like, given the dugout is blacked out during innings? (For <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGuF-Wy_QUc">this iconic Red Sox-Yankees brawl</a>, the dugout angle might actually be perfect.) How well could you follow the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/NESN/videos/still-confused-on-mlbs-fourth-out-rule-we-broke-it-down-for-you-/2165984964300692/">extremely rare and weird occurrences </a>— <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akfnPpk2mtk">like a ball getting wedged between the padding of a wall and the ground</a> — that randomly become extremely important and that most people have never seen happen before? The Red Sox fly ball was caught up against the wall by Yankees centerfielder Trent Grisham <a href="https://x.com/concretecityccs/status/2093478727023796644">in a hopping catch</a>, but the immersive view alone wouldn’t be enough to follow the play closely. You need the TV broadcast screen to supplement the hyperreality.&nbsp;</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>It all made me wonder who or what watching a game on Vision Pro is for</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There were a few moments that really did feel like a new way to experience a very old game. The brief look into the team dugouts, for example, offered views you don’t often get: the screens tucked away with a live feed of the bullpens, or the sunflower seeds flying into the dirt. The on-deck circle, where players do their ritual preparations before it’s their turn up to bat, is visible only occasionally on a broadcast but is in full view on the Vision Pro. After Schlittler was pulled from the game in the sixth inning, the immersive view showed him in the dugout, shaking his head in frustration and heading into the clubhouse, head in hands. You probably wouldn’t get these details in a typical broadcast, at least not up close like this.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">On Saturday, I had a game on the TV while I made dinner for a friend, and on Sunday, a group of us caught the last Red Sox-Yankees game, live at Yankee Stadium, where the Yankees crushed the Sox 16-1. It all made me wonder who or what watching a game on Vision Pro is for. It’s remarkable technology that felt weirdly sterile and <a href="https://www.theverge.com/23751675/apple-vision-pro-vr-headset-ios-17-mental-health-mood-journal">isolating</a> as I sat on my couch, my friends watching me watch something alone.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">All of the most memorable baseball-related moments I’ve experienced happened in the company of others, and none of them depended on how good my view was or how close I was to the players. Immersive viewing might be a fun way for a casual fan or a techy person to engage with the game in a low stakes, convenient way. But if baseball is part of the rhythm of your day, or your summer, or your year, it’s hard to imagine regularly choosing the headset over just about any other way to follow the sport. I’d venture that for many baseball fans, the Vision Pro experience optimizes for the wrong thing. It’s novel and undoubtedly exciting — at least until you realize this isn’t what you came for to begin with.</p>

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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Meta glasses are a workplace menace]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[In August, Toru Hinkle was stocking shelves at their job at Target when they noticed two customers and asked if they needed any help. The men requested a price check on an item — but even after Hinkle told them the item was $20, the customers asked for the price again and again.&#160; “After a [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="has-drop-cap wp-block-paragraph">In August, Toru Hinkle was stocking shelves at their job at Target when they noticed two customers and asked if they needed any help. The men requested a price check on an item — but even after Hinkle told them the item was $20, the customers asked for the price again and again.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“After a while, I realized that I&#8217;m basically being pranked, and I noticed the glasses,” Hinkle says, referring to the frames with a blinking light. They were the Ray-Ban Meta glasses, and the customers were filming. Hinkle eventually called a store manager over, but the pranksters antagonized her, too — asking the price repeatedly, deliberately misgendering Hinkle as “ma’am” and the female manager as “sir.” At one point, Hinkle attempted to stop the recording by saying “Meta, stop recording” out loud, hoping to trigger a voice control setting. The customers pretended to be confused by the accusation that they were recording Hinkle.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The confrontation made Hinkle queasy. “I felt like this pit in my stomach just started to build up,” Hinkle recalls. “After this whole exchange happened, the rest of the shift, I was just quiet and didn&#8217;t even talk to anyone because I was just so shaken up by it.” Another customer called the police, Hinkle says, and the two men were escorted out of the store. Target declined to comment.</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>The entire exchange was turned into content for social media</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The two customers were, in fact, recording Hinkle, and the entire exchange was turned into content for social media. Another Target manager came across the video while scrolling online, without even looking for it. One clip featuring the incident with Hinkle viewed by <em>The Verge </em>had almost 400,000 views on Instagram and 155,000 views on <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@n0sl33pty/video/7669979107979021599">TikTok</a>. </p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta has <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/11/ray-ban-maker-essilorluxottica-triples-sales-of-meta-ai-glasses.html">sold</a> millions of pairs of its AI-powered smart glasses over the last several years — but as sales boom, so too has the <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/970948/meta-smart-glasses-privacy-wearables">backlash</a> to the devices. The glasses allow wearers to listen to music or take calls, but the feature that has sparked outrage is the ability to record using them: Many people see them as a new notch in the surveillance apparatus at best, and “pervert” and “creep” glasses at worst.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Ordinarily, if you are recorded against your will, you can try to leave the area or otherwise resist being recorded. But many people are encountering smart glasses for the first time while at their job, especially those who interact with the public, like retail and service workers. In the workplace, smart glasses exacerbate the power imbalance between the customer and the employee, or the boss and subordinate. Resisting invasive technology is risky when you depend on your job to pay rent or buy groceries. It’s harder still when many workplaces don’t yet have policies around a new gadget that the public is grappling with in real time.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Service and retail workers in particular have become a target for stealth — and annoying — smart glasses recording. People wearing Meta glasses are going into stores and <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-ray-ban-prank-videos-problem-2026-3">harassing or “pranking” employees</a>, using the footage for content and making unwitting workers the butt of the joke. The video made of Hinkle and their manager without their consent is the exact kind of content that <a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/970901/instagram-meta-glasses-prank-harassment-ban">Instagram has claimed it will now remove</a> — yet the account that uploaded it was filled with similar “prank” videos harassing workers at their jobs.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There’s little recourse for those who have been unknowingly recorded. In one of the videos posted to social media that Hinkle is featured in, the Meta glasses wearer is seen chumming it up and dancing with a police officer who arrived at the Target store.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“You boys stay out of trouble,” the cop says as he fist bumps the person recording. Instagram banned the account — and along with it, removed the video of Hinkle — after <em>The Verge </em>asked the company about it.</p>

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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Emily, who works at a popular Seattle tourist destination, deals with vlogger questions and videographers trying to get close-up shots of the food her attraction sells. As a worker in an area with lots of foot traffic, being in the background of a video was just part of the job. More recently, though, the encounters have left her feeling deeply uncomfortable. The worst is when a much taller man stands over her and films her with his Meta glasses. She thinks — hopes — he is not filming down her shirt. But that’s what it feels like.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“If someone was [holding] a phone up from that angle, I could obviously be like, ‘Hey man, please stop that,’” Emily says. The glasses make it much harder to tell what, exactly, a customer is filming. (Emily asked that <em>The Verge </em>only use her first name and not name her workplace, citing concerns of getting targeted.)</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Emily works as a cashier and interacts with up to 2,000 people a day. Even before Meta released its AI-powered smart glasses, people from all over the world visited and recorded videos at Emily’s workplace. But the new method of filming has quickly become part of her daily working environment: On some days, she says up to 10 people an hour will come in wearing smart glasses. The most preferable situation is that a customer filming her will use the video for relatively innocuous purposes, like a travel vlog or a food review.</p>
<img src="https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/07/268667_meta_glasses_spying_posters_AKrales_0180.jpg?quality=90&amp;strip=all&amp;crop=0,0,100,100" alt="" title="" data-has-syndication-rights="1" data-caption="Satirical posters were plastered in New York protesting Meta glasses. | Photo: Amelia Holowaty Krales / The Verge" data-portal-copyright="Photo: Amelia Holowaty Krales / The Verge" />
<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Worst-case scenario, they&#8217;re doing something significantly more nefarious with it,” Emily worries. “That is what&#8217;s significantly more scary to me … That feels like it&#8217;s a very easy way to get content of young women specifically.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Many of the encounters filmed using Meta glasses are explicitly gendered, like a genre of videos where men approach women with pickup lines and <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/10/business/video/smart-glasses-covert-filming-creators-vrtc">make content out of the encounters</a>. Meta glasses have a light that indicates when they’re recording, but some people have <a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/942769/people-are-paying-to-get-rid-of-the-recording-light-on-their-meta-ray-bans">tampered with the glasses</a> to secretly record without being noticed. Meta says it is <a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/962514/meta-privacy-light-tampering-smart-glasses-update">working on disabling</a> filming capabilities if the glasses detect the light has been damaged or covered.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Emily is conscious of the fact that she’s a young woman working in a public place all the time, which adds to the baseline discomfort she feels.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“I also want to emphasise how creepy I think the general surveillance aspect of it is, not just as a young woman, but as a person living [among] other people,” she says. “It does add to the feeling of constantly being watched.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta has maintained that privacy features are built into its smart glasses.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“People use our glasses because they&#8217;re genuinely helpful – from listening to music, to live translation or hands-free calls. For those wearing them and the people around them, trust matters. That&#8217;s why we built privacy into our AI glasses from the ground up,” Meta spokesperson Dina El-Kassaby said in an email. El-Kassaby pointed to the LED indicator light that blinks when a user is taking a photo or video, and the tamper-proofing the company has started to roll out.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">El-Kassaby said Meta has begun blocking hashtags on its platforms associated with harassing content, including “rizz,” “pickup artist,” and “cold approach,” and has removed thousands of pieces of content under its bullying and harassment policy. The same rules apply to content filmed on other devices, like a smartphone, El-Kassaby says. But for years, the contemporary social media ecosystem has <a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/970901/instagram-meta-glasses-prank-harassment-ban">depended on strangers unwittingly becoming content</a> — everything from this new wave of Meta glasses-powered “pranks” to people-of-Walmart-style gawking. A social internet cleansed of all content that takes advantage of others would be quite empty.</p>

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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">For the first few weeks, Jennifer didn’t think much of her new boss. Then one day, he was wearing a different pair of glasses at their job at a Sprouts grocery store in the Atlanta area.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">She looked at him and asked, “Are those Meta glasses?”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Yeah, they are,” he said. “What of it?”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Jennifer recalls starting to shake because their presence — and her boss’s lack of concern about how violating a recording device in the workplace could be — was so disconcerting.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Sprouts workers are barred from wearing headphones on the store floor because it’s a safety hazard when operating heavy machinery, Jennifer says, and non-managers are not allowed to have their phones with them. (She asked that <em>The Verge </em>use a pseudonym so she could discuss her experience freely.) What’s more, Jennifer says Sprouts stores prohibit videography and photography inside — customers who come in know the store has security cameras, but are likely not expecting employees to have glasses with built-in cameras in them, too. An employee wearing Meta glasses could break that trust with customers. Store employees also handle sensitive data at their jobs, including customers’ names, email addresses, and credit card information.</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>Jennifer says she was given an ultimatum: Accept the working conditions or quit. She resigned.</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Jennifer imagines her manager wearing Meta glasses in the break room, or the bathroom — places where a worker expects a certain level of privacy. “It essentially collapses the social contract, in my opinion, to allow this,” she says.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Jennifer also worries that women and children shopping in the store are particularly endangered by the technology, and noted that the recording light on her boss’s glasses looked like it had been obscured in some way. Jennifer told <em>The Verge</em> that she filed a complaint to HR and asked that Sprouts make a formal policy around smart glasses, but found the company to be largely unresponsive and unhelpful. Instead, she says, she was given an ultimatum: Accept the working conditions or quit. She resigned.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“The issue is about the data that is collected, the footage, the audio, and the facial recognition that can be added to these glasses,” Jennifer says. “I want it so that it’s not acceptable for anybody to be doing that in the workplace.” Sprouts didn’t respond to <em>The Verge</em>’s requests for comment.</p>

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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Spy-like smart glasses are no longer a distant sci-fi future; they’re here now, and more tech companies are <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2026-07-26/apple-glasses-may-debut-at-wwdc-2027-privacy-camera-features-versus-meta-ms1v7lta">reportedly</a> developing them. Workers, meanwhile, are left in the lurch as laws and company policies catch up to their daily reality.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Experts say laws governing privacy in the US are scattershot, state-dependent, and often outdated. Woodrow Hartzog, a law professor at Boston University, says information privacy law generally states that if you are in public, you have a reduced expectation of privacy — though some instances, like recording someone in a locker room changing, could open up the person recording to liability.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Workplace protections around being recorded, though, are almost entirely governed by corporate policy. Some workplaces have explicitly banned smart glasses: In August, Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced a policy <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/18/technology/ice-meta-smart-glasses.html">that bars its employees from wearing Meta glasses</a> because of the potential of capturing sensitive information. Some <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/882030/smart-glasses-in-court-meta-mark-zuckerberg">courthouses</a> have also restricted smart glasses because they could be used to do things like identify jurors.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“The best hope for employees is through collective bargaining and policy-level rules around what kinds of recording technologies will be allowed and when they&#8217;ll be allowed to be used,” Hartzog says.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Having smart glasses in the workplace could also create new liabilities for corporations that permit the devices: Businesses are charged with being stewards of customer and employee data, and as surveillance increases, so will the amount of abuses and breaches that accompany that surveillance, Hartzog says. He recommends strong and clear policies prohibiting the use of smart glasses — for both employees’ and customers’ sake.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“We know that when people are being watched, they feel less free. They chill their behavior, they feel pressure to conform. They worry about even minor deviations from norms being used against them,” he says. “It&#8217;s just a sort of suffocating atmosphere to be a part of.”</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>“I’m here to watch you, and you’re here to perform for me.”</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It’s not just service and retail workers who have come face-to-face with unwanted recordings while they’re working — creatives and performers are also grappling with a strange new reality. Earlier this summer, comedian Electra Telesford was onstage in the middle of a joke when she noticed blinking lights coming from the crowd. In an audio recording of her set that she shared with <em>The Verge</em>,<em> </em>Telesford can be heard addressing the man in the audience directly.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Are your glasses blinking?” she asks.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">He responds that he’s recording her.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Oh, could you not?” she says.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“That’s what they’re there for,” he says, defiantly. “I’m here to watch you, and you’re here to perform for me.” The audience member refuses to stop filming even after being asked to. Rather than argue back and forth, Telesford cuts her set short and walks offstage.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“I was like, ‘I can&#8217;t do anything about it except get myself out of view of the camera on your face,’” she says of the exchange. “That&#8217;s all I can do.&#8221;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">At a comedy club or a more formal venue, audience members are typically told that recording isn’t allowed before a show starts. Events at bars, like the one Telesford was performing in, are typically more relaxed, she says. After the set, producers and hosts of the event spoke to the audience member and explained that comics are working on material for future opportunities where they can be paid for their performances, like television; having sets posted somewhere public could prevent performers from getting other distribution deals, since the material would no longer be exclusive. Going forward, the bar plans to announce at the beginning of performances that recording with Meta glasses is not allowed, Telesford says.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“It&#8217;s definitely kind of tarnished every other interaction I&#8217;ve had,” Telesford says, even in front of audiences where the glasses aren’t present. “Every time I&#8217;ve been onstage since, it&#8217;s been a worry, a concern.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Being surreptitiously (or blatantly) recorded while at work isn’t just a problem for public-facing workers; it’s just as easy to imagine concerns that could arise if a coworker at your office starts wearing smart glasses, or if a medical professional wears them while providing care to a patient. Smart glasses reframe person-to-person interactions, creating a watchful technological mediary between two people. There’s a stark difference between having a casual, private conversation and the threat of everything you say or do being captured for limitless dissemination without your consent.</p>
<img src="https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/07/268667_meta_glasses_spying_posters_AKrales_0142.jpg?quality=90&amp;strip=all&amp;crop=0,0,100,100" alt="" title="" data-has-syndication-rights="1" data-caption="Much of the pushback has focused on Meta glasses’ ability to invade privacy. | Photo: Amelia Holowaty Krales / The Verge" data-portal-copyright="Photo: Amelia Holowaty Krales / The Verge" />
<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Meta’s current smart glasses can only record for a few minutes, but it has ambitions to make the tech even more integrated into daily life. The company is reportedly developing smart glasses <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/963138/meta-smart-glasses-recording-super-sensing-ai">that record all the time</a>, continuously pulling in data from audio and photos that the wearer could ask Meta AI about. What’s more, with the “super sensing” mode, the LED indicator light would not be on except when the wearer is actively taking photos and videos that are saved. The number of routine encounters that are recorded, saved, processed, and accessed later could skyrocket, effectively quantifying even the most mundane or private parts of our lives.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Hartzog, the law professor, says, “This is just another way for employees who already have less power in their roles to be further marginalized and dissected, and is part of a larger story about the way in which being an employee means taking on increased suffering as part of the job.”</p>

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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Google aims for influencers with the Pixel 11 Creator Suite]]></title>
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			<updated>2026-08-12T10:34:03-04:00</updated>
			<published>2026-08-12T10:30:00-04:00</published>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Google knows creators are a big audience. The occupation is growing fast, and landing some influential names could be a major turning point for the Pixel’s market share. This year, Google is building features directly into its new Pixel lineup that it says can help creators record, organize, edit, and publish content faster and more [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Google knows creators are a big audience. The occupation is growing fast, and landing some influential names could be a major turning point for the Pixel’s market share. This year, Google is building features directly into its new Pixel lineup that it says can help creators record, organize, edit, and publish content faster and more efficiently than they could on other devices.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Creator Suite is a new mode built into <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/978013/google-pixel-11-series-hands-on-hardware-software">the Pixel 11’s camera app</a>. The suite comes with features like a teleprompter, vocal enhancer, external microphone levels, and social media frame guides, which Google thinks will entice users who want to start building channels and have limited resources.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“ We really wanted to do something for those folks who are creating on their phones to make it easier to do that, make it faster to publish, fewer retakes, easier organization, and just streamline that workflow,” Isaac Reynolds, who leads the Pixel camera team, tells <em>The Verge</em>.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Reynolds says there is a massive gap between the top and bottom of the creator market, where the biggest creators have teams and resources, but the “hundreds of thousands of creators” in the bottom of the market need more accessible ways to make content.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“ They&#8217;re striving to put out content weekly or daily, even when they have full-time jobs,” Reynolds says. “They&#8217;ve got money coming in, it&#8217;s very enticing, but it&#8217;s not the replacement for their work yet.”</p>
<img src="https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/08/Google-Pixel-11-Creator-Suite.jpg?quality=90&amp;strip=all&amp;crop=0,0,100,100" alt="" title="" data-has-syndication-rights="1" data-caption="&lt;em&gt;A frame guide with a cutout where the buttons show up on TikTok.&lt;/em&gt;" data-portal-copyright="" />
<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The arrival of TikTok has fundamentally reshaped what it means to be an influencer or a content creator, and the barrier to entry to do that work is lower than ever; all you need to do is film a selfie video. Over the last five or so years, the creator industry has both professionalized and de-professionalized: Influencers are signed to talent agencies and retain professional management, but there’s also been <a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/920005/social-media-clipping-podcasts-clavicular-marketing-mrbeast">an explosion of cheap and fast content </a>that is not tied to a specific personality — all that matters is whether it’s being served up to audiences. AI slop is everywhere. Follower count is increasingly irrelevant, and making content for the internet is, in theory, an attainable job for anyone, including people with other full-time jobs. Google recognizes that and wants those legions of people to use its phone.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Google has tried to court this demographic before, at least indirectly: Last year, <a href="http://youtube.com/shorts/2gO1omV0bt8">it tapped Alex Cooper</a>, host of the popular celebrity interview podcast <em>Call Her Daddy, </em>to make Google ads and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DRs7tdOj4SP/?hl=en&amp;img_index=1">post selfies</a> on Instagram with the Pixel (she also <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DOoYq3qicZv/">promoted photo editing features</a> at Made By Google last year). The partnership touted how Google&#8217;s ecosystem would help Cooper’s business as a content creator — scripting videos, shooting content, and keeping her team organized. Google now wants to reach the individuals who are pumping out content by themselves with just a phone.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>Photography by David Imel / The Verge</em></p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Why your Amazon order confirmation emails have become so unhelpful]]></title>
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			<updated>2026-08-11T09:27:20-04:00</updated>
			<published>2026-08-11T09:27:20-04:00</published>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Earlier this summer, Amazon customers began noticing that emails related to their online orders looked sparse: Order confirmation emails didn’t name specific items anymore, and instead listed only item categories.&#160; “Your Beauty item is confirmed!” an email about my retainer cleaning tablets read. Shoppers have posted other iterations of the redacted emails as well: “Ordered: [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Earlier this summer, Amazon customers began noticing that emails related to their online orders looked sparse: Order confirmation emails didn’t name specific items anymore, and instead listed only item categories.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Your Beauty item is confirmed!” an email about my retainer cleaning tablets read. Shoppers have posted other iterations of the redacted emails as well: “<a href="https://x.com/QuinnyPig/status/2080475069411946720">Ordered: 1 Hardware item</a>,” “<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/amazonprime/comments/1ust16q/amazon_email_stopped_showing_specific_items/">Your Drugstore, Shoes, and other items are here!</a>” and “<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/enshittification/comments/1v3bsm6/amazon_emails_no_longer_tell_you_what_theyre/">1 Nutrition &amp; Wellness, 1 Wireless Accessories</a>,” for example. The emails have clip art-style illustrations of general product categories, and a shopper has to exit their email and go to Amazon to see what item it’s actually referring to.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Complaints about the vague emails appear to have started in July; orders placed as recently as June contain thumbnails and names of the exact item purchased. Some shoppers are <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/amazonprime/comments/1uxqzyx/are_you_frustrated_about_amazons_recent_privacy/">complaining</a> to Amazon about the new system, saying the emails with no details make it harder to keep track of purchases (and kind of look like spam or a phishing attempt). Amazon has a long history of tweaking how order emails look — there are <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/amazonprime/comments/dvl74w/amazon_order_receipts_no_longer_show_what/">complaints</a> going back <a href="https://thehustle.co/09032020-amazon-order-confirmations">years</a> about what’s included and what isn’t — but in the last month and a half, more and more shoppers are noticing the vague order update notifications.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">AI is likely partially to blame.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Over the last year or so, tech companies have asked consumers to imagine a world where an AI “agent” is doing their bidding for them, including spending their money. Google, with a catalog of billions of products in Shopping, is perhaps best situated to make that vision a reality, and indeed has already introduced a slew of shopping features powered by AI. Gemini Spark can <a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/941388/gemini-spark-ai-agent-trip-planning">mine a user’s email</a> for crumbs of information to, for example, build custom vacation itineraries, pulling in data like concert ticket confirmations and biographical details about family. In May Google <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/932927/google-io-agentic-ai-shopping-universal-cart">unveiled</a> a shopping cart that works across various merchants that would eventually be integrated into Gmail as well, meaning shoppers could add things to their cart while reading their inbox or watching YouTube. How helpful an AI agent can be <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/934172/google-io-gemini-ai-trust-personal-data">depends on how much personal information</a> a user is willing to fork over.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">As users hand over more and more data and agency to AI tools, service providers are caught in a bind: If agents are truly as efficient as tech companies say they are, customers and audiences in theory have no reason to visit a website themselves — the agent can just do it for them. (<em>The Verge</em> has been calling this “<a href="https://www.theverge.com/podcast/823909/the-doordash-problem-ai-agents-web-amazon-perplexity-lawsuit">the DoorDash problem</a>.”) Still, many big retailers, like Walmart, Target, and Wayfair, have signed on to commerce features built into Google’s AI surfaces, hoping that consumers will research, compare, and ultimately purchase their products via chatbots. Notably not on the list of merchants: Amazon.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Amazon has been more protective of its direct relationship with shoppers. Last year the company <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/813755/amazon-perplexity-ai-shopping-agent-block">sued</a> Perplexity for allowing users to shop on Amazon on their behalf; a judge <a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/amazon-loses-us-court-ban-perplexitys-ai-shopping-tools-2026-08-04/">sided with Perplexity</a> earlier this month. Amazon has also been plugging away at AI-powered shopping features of its own, like <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/840579/amazon-alexa-plus-shopping-features-automatic-purchase">price tracking</a> and automatic purchasing. <a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/929457/amazon-announces-alexa-for-shopping-ai-assistant-rufus">Alexa for Shopping</a> is built into the Amazon app, and shoppers can query the chatbot for product recommendations and comparisons without going outside to Gemini or ChatGPT, for example. <em>The Verge </em>asked Amazon directly if the change in email format was to shield purchase information from companies like Google that are building AI-powered shopping tools.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;As customers shop with us more frequently, including on their phones, and use the ‘Your Orders’ page in the Amazon app to get real-time, consolidated order details and delivery status, we&#8217;ve simplified several order-related emails to direct customers to our app and website for the latest information on their orders,” spokesperson Maxine Tagay said in an email. “This also reduces customer information shared outside the Amazon app and website to further improve customer privacy.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In other words: It’s a way to hedge against the DoorDash problem by hiding the meaty information on Amazon’s properties, and to keep customers visiting the retailer directly. The upshot for shoppers is that it’s ever so slightly more annoying to access our own information, too.</p>

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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[How an OpenAI influencer trip backfired ]]></title>
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			<updated>2026-08-04T14:16:11-04:00</updated>
			<published>2026-08-04T13:46:41-04:00</published>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[The brand trip is a right of passage for influencers. It’s a mark of legitimacy that a sponsor wants to invite them on an all-expenses-paid vacation, often with luxurious freebies and activities. Trips can also spur hard feelings from uninvited influencers, trigger criticism from the public, and project a certain frivolousness.&#160; Usually it is fast [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The brand trip is a right of passage for influencers. It’s a mark of legitimacy that a sponsor wants to invite them on an all-expenses-paid vacation, often with luxurious freebies and activities. Trips can also spur hard feelings from uninvited influencers, trigger criticism from the public, and project a certain frivolousness.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Usually it is <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/30/23779058/shein-influencer-trip-backlash-ads-forced-labor">fast fashion companies</a> or <a href="https://www.thecut.com/2023/05/why-black-women-creators-are-accusing-tarte-of-mistreatment.html">beauty brands</a> flying out influencers with the goal of flooding social media with sponsored content. This time, it was a major AI company.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Over the weekend, several influencers began posting about OpenAI’s “first ever brand trip,” which appears to have taken place outside of New York City at a nature-filled retreat (for those curious, it looks to be the Instagram-bait <a href="https://auberge.com/wildflower-farms/">Wildflower Farms</a>). The trip was marketed as “Summer Club,” and influencers posted photos and videos from their cabins, showing off branded merch and monogrammed pajamas and talking vaguely about the scheduled programming. Many of the content creators appear to be in the career and business niches, posting about workplace culture or about being CEOs. Grace McCarrick, who has 145,000 followers on TikTok, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@graceforpersonalityhires/video/7669031978213117198">vlogged from her suite</a> as she ran a bath at night. Another influencer, Nat Lucy (57,000 followers), <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nat.lucyy/video/7668872242515758350">filmed herself</a> spotting a deer outside of her cabin. All hell broke loose.</p>

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<blockquote class="tiktok-embed" cite="https://www.tiktok.com/@graceforpersonalityhires/video/7669031978213117198" data-video-id="7669031978213117198" data-embed-from="oembed"> <section> <a target="_blank" title="@graceforpersonalityhires" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@graceforpersonalityhires?refer=embed">@graceforpersonalityhires</a> <p>I genuinely can’t believe I was on @ChatGPT ‘s first ever brand trip. I am so honored!! Hang with me and I’ll tell you what I think the real privilege of being on this kind of trip is and how I want to use it. </p> <a target="_blank" title="♬ original sound - grace mccarrick" href="https://www.tiktok.com/music/original-sound-7669032271915059982?refer=embed">♬ original sound &#8211; grace mccarrick</a> </section> </blockquote> 
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“People will literally sell their soul and their planet down the river for a nice free hotel room,” one commenter on TikTok wrote under McCarrick’s video. “Wow! Beautiful greenery! They should put a data center there!” reads a comment on Lucy’s post. Most of the videos got relatively little traction: McCarrick’s video has just under 300 likes, and Lucy’s video has fewer than 15,000 views. It’s measly engagement compared to what other splashy brand trips can command — but videos <em>reacting</em> to the trip have made it something of a scandal (a <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reels/DbjfNrbhmRV/">pair</a> of <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@crutches_and_spice/video/7669219473315974413">clips</a> alone has over half a million combined views).</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Many of the comments on the influencers’ videos cite <a href="https://www.theverge.com/cs/features/937356/ai-data-center-gpu-environmental-impact">the environmental effects of the AI boom</a>, the contentious <a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/902546/data-centers-ai-energy-power-grids-controversy">buildout of data centers</a> across the US, and the potential for job replacement or job loss as a result of companies integrating AI in the workplace. Some also questioned why so many of the content creators who went on the trip appeared to be young women, as if OpenAI was targeting a specific demographic via media they were more connected to (though based on photos and videos posted to social media, there were <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Dbgrhizj-lh/?img_index=1">men</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Dbg8k8vPKcG/">on the trip</a>, too). <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2026/06/17/the-gender-gap-in-ai/">According to Pew</a>, even as the AI usage gap between men and women has all but disappeared, women tend to view AI more negatively and are twice as likely to say AI will negatively impact them personally. Some audiences wondered whether female influencers were essentially being used to launder the reputation of an industry under scrutiny.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">McCarrick, who describes herself as a creator who talks about “soft skills we need at work to millions online and to teams like Spotify, Amazon, Uber and DoorDash,” has since made <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@graceforpersonalityhires/video/7669573209519328526">multiple</a> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@graceforpersonalityhires/video/7669484144493153550">videos</a> responding to commenters accusing her of essentially abandoning her morals for a fancy trip. On LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/gracemccarrick_i-went-on-openais-first-ever-brand-trip-ugcPost-7489918650238525440-7Z6z/">she wrote</a> that she “genuinely had no idea that people were this anti-AI,” and that the negative response to her videos exposed her to “the shocking AI psychosis running rampant online” — by which she means anger about AI, not the more common definition of being driven to paranoia or delusions of grandeur by using AI. People in the real world “do not run around like a chicken with their heads cut off, screaming about water usage and wildlife and (curiously) fascism,” she wrote.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">None of the influencers <em>The Verge </em>reached out to responded to requests for comment. OpenAI said creator marketing is part of how they reach people and that the event was meant to be educational.</p>

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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Creators are an important part of our community and how people get information and learn about our products today,” OpenAI spokesperson Edie Campbell-Urban said in an email. “We welcome healthy debate as AI becomes more prevalent, and we value creators who choose to engage with us, attend our events, ask tough questions, and learn alongside everyone else. We’ll continue to value them, just as we do traditional media and other marketing partners.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Setting aside the backlash to the trip for a moment, a few things stand out. First, all things considered, this appears to be a relatively simple trip. That’s not to say it wasn’t luxurious — the rooms at the retreat cost upwards of $2,000 a night — but it is nothing compared to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/12/style/coachella-influencers-brand-trips.html">the brands that go all out</a> in order to milk content from every last moment (some commenters poked fun at the fact that it was a domestic trip, not a far-flung, international vacation). Second, there’s a sense that everyone involved is testing the waters: Multiple influencers noted it was the first brand trip they’d attended, and one influencer indicated they were not paid for their attendance, which big brands often do for top talent. Third and most interestingly, the goals of the trip are muddled: It’s not entirely clear what the influencers were actually doing on the trip, because there is surprisingly little content online from the event. Typically, if an influencer is on a brand trip it’s inescapable — every little luxury, every meal, every activity is TikToked and photo dumped. Instead of content about the capabilities of ChatGPT, the videos and photos are largely aspirational lifestyle content focused on the free swag and pretty setting — and even then, there’s a conspicuous lack of content, period. There isn’t the same flood of picturesque montages, clips from expert sessions or Q&amp;As, or summaries of what a creator learned from their time with OpenAI. At least not yet.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">AI companies have used influencer marketing in straightforward ways, like paying creators to make content about their product offerings. But they’ve also dabbled in the kind of influencer marketing people expert from more traditional consumer brands: Anthropic <a href="https://x.com/TaylorLorenz/status/2047767026056221098">has hosted more lowkey influencer dinners</a> at trendy locations with lifestyle influencers, and there are rumblings of a second OpenAI trip on the West Coast.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">As backlash to the industry has grown, AI companies have adjusted how they communicate with the public: “Your jobs will soon be obsolete” has clearly not been the right framing for why people should trust these companies or get on board with their mission. Instead, AI companies like OpenAI and Anthropic have tried to add a bit of human touch, whether that’s through in-person pop-up coffee shops, <a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/973098/reddit-ai-search-seo-marketing-brands-spam">stylized merch drops</a>, or <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVbGX7zJHi8">ad campaigns</a> that take concerns people have about AI and try to turn them into pro-AI inspirational content.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What better way to reach consumers directly than through the talking heads they already know and trust? Influencers are a convenient vessel, both for brands looking to disseminate their message and for the inevitable backlash from audiences who give them a platform in the first place. In this case, the content broke containment out of the girlboss-style business circles into the mainstream — an AI brand trip dressed up as an aspirational lifestyle retreat is both confusing and enraging to <a href="https://www.thecut.com/article/nantucket-locals-vs-influencers-paige-lorenze-dairy-boy.html">a public fatigued by this line of work</a>. By tapping a certain kind of creator for a weekend of sponsored content, OpenAI is able to test a new audience without fully committing; it’s the content creators, after all, who will get the angry comments, whose faces will be plastered on the backgrounds of an ever-increasing number of reaction videos (influencers received similar backlash for <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/30/23779058/shein-influencer-trip-backlash-ads-forced-labor">a Shein brand trip in 2023</a>). The AI industry wants the soft power and cultural relevance influencers wield and realized the price of reaching their audience is surprisingly cheap. You get what you pay for.</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Can Reddit fend off a new wave of AI SEO spam?]]></title>
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			<updated>2026-08-04T10:05:17-04:00</updated>
			<published>2026-08-04T06:00:00-04:00</published>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Earlier this year, a Reddit user had asked members of a skincare-focused subreddit if anyone had tried a specific hypochlorous acid spray, a product often used for acne. There were dozens of responses; one from a user named Primary-Taro4254 seemed innocuous enough, at least at first. “I haven’t personally tried [that brand] so I can’t [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Earlier this year, a Reddit user had <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddicts/comments/1t9jvcf/magic_molecule_hypochlorous_acid_spray_is_it/">asked</a> members of a skincare-focused subreddit if anyone had tried a specific hypochlorous acid spray, a product often used for acne. There were dozens of responses; one from a user named Primary-Taro4254 seemed innocuous enough, at least at first.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“I haven’t personally tried [that brand] so I can’t fully compare, sorry,” they commented. “But I have been using a similar hypochlorous acid spray from Honeydew Labs and I’ve honestly really liked it.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Primary-Taro4254 helpfully shared their experience using the spray to calm their skin’s redness and irritation, and even threw in some of Honeydew Labs’ credentials: “One thing I noticed when comparing products is that Honeydew Labs uses a 0.02% hypochlorous acid concentration and it’s also accepted by the National Eczema Association, which made me feel a bit more confident trying it on sensitive skin.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But a closer look at Primary-Taro4254’s Reddit profile revealed that they apparently really, <em>really </em>liked the Honeydew Labs hypochlorous acid spray. It wasn’t just the one thread where they were praising the product — they had posted similar messages on threads about unrelated products as well as in other skincare-related subreddits. Was Primary-Taro4254 working for Honeydew Labs? Was it a marketing firm’s inartful promotional strategy? Was there a person behind it at all, or was it an automated spammer? Before long, a member of r/SkincareAddiction — a popular subreddit with more than 1 million weekly visitors — <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/comments/1t9nkt4/psa_be_aware_of_honeydew_labs_hypochlorous_acid/">had caught on</a>, telling others to “be aware of honeydew labs hypochlorous acid/ marketing bots.” Soon after, a moderator announced they had taken action on Primary-Taro4254 and would now automatically filter out Honeydew Labs posts for moderator review.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">(Honeydew Labs didn’t respond to a request for comment. Primary-Taro4254 didn’t respond to a message sent via Reddit.)</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It’s hard to overstate how central Reddit has become to how billions of people experience the web over the last several years. It has gone from a constellation of niche communities with a sometimes cantankerous user base to becoming perhaps the most urgently important website on the internet. First, users began adding “reddit” to the end of queries in order to wade through results littered with search engine optimization (SEO) junk, and in turn <a href="https://www.theverge.com/c/23998379/google-search-seo-algorithm-webpage-optimization">Google began linking to the site prominently</a>. Now, Reddit has become significant to brands and marketers for another reason: AI chatbots love to cite it.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">According to data compiled for <em>The Verge </em>by Semrush, an SEO company owned by Adobe, Reddit was the most-cited domain in May by AI tools ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google’s Gemini and AI Mode — more than any news publisher, repositories of scholarly articles, and even Wikipedia. AI responses are also encroaching into the online shopping journey: Semrush <a href="https://www.semrush.com/blog/ai-overviews-commercial-search-study/">also found</a> that compared to a year ago, Google is inserting AI Overviews much more frequently into search queries with commercial intent, like when shoppers are doing research on products or comparing brands.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When web traffic is funneled through LLMs instead of a traditional search results page, <a href="https://www.theverge.com/24167865/google-zero-search-crash-housefresh-ai-overviews-traffic-data-audience">as Google has been doing</a>, being cited by a chatbot becomes ever more important. Now, a whole host of startups, brands, and agencies are coming to Reddit to try to promote their companies <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/900302/ai-seo-industry-google-search-chatgpt-gemini-marketing?view_token=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpZCI6IjY5RTdsc0piVVYiLCJwIjoiL3RlY2gvOTAwMzAyL2FpLXNlby1pbmR1c3RyeS1nb29nbGUtc2VhcmNoLWNoYXRncHQtZ2VtaW5pLW1hcmtldGluZyIsImV4cCI6MTc3NTkxMDQ2OCwiaWF0IjoxNzc1NDc4NDY4fQ.dJ0D5fyXrXvix7hUVl4WjQOIJV2bMAkDatxNGrpgR3I">in hopes that they will get picked up by AI</a>. In an effort to try to manipulate LLM responses and stuff AI search results with brand-friendly answers, marketers have descended upon Reddit, a pseudo-anonymous platform that users have come to associate with authenticity and unfiltered, truthful opinions.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">They will have to get past the moderators first.</p>

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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Before Maya Adivi became one of r/SkincareAddiction’s moderators, she was an active user, immediately drawn to the community’s attention to the science underpinning the beauty industry: Instead of general, simple questions like “What should I do for acne?”, users took a more rigorous approach, discussing and explaining new studies being published simply because they were passionate about the topic. Moderating for spam and promotional content has always been part of the job, Adivi says, but these days even a long, detailed breakdown of a study might be viewed with suspicion.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Years ago, moderators would look for certain telltale signs of spam or covert promotional content: a review that was a bit too glowing, product links with tracking tags, or before and after pictures that were the same as those included in product listings for the brand. AI search has changed how marketers attempt to game systems such that some SEO experts say that brands <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/900302/ai-seo-industry-google-search-chatgpt-gemini-marketing">don’t even need a backlink</a> anymore to effectively get their websites cited by a chatbot — merely a mention is enough. A suspected spammer might pose a question like “How does everyone keep track of their skincare routine?” that at first glance appears to be authentic engagement, but then a wave of comments will mention AI skincare apps, for example. Other posts might ask, “I keep seeing ads for this brand. What’s your experience with it?” Dubious spam responses might then follow a slightly self-deprecating format: “I thought this product would be too aggressive, but it was actually very gentle. Slow and steady wins the race!” Posts are often open-ended questions, mimicking how a user might prompt an AI chatbot.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“It&#8217;s a lot more subtle, but we&#8217;ve become more sophisticated as well,” Adivi says.</p>

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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">r/SkincareAddiction prohibits accounts affiliated with brands from posting in the subreddit — Adivi and other moderators will sometimes give a warning to accounts that violate the rule, but more often they will automatically ban brands and sock puppet accounts violating the rule. A brand secretly trying to promote itself becomes “persona non grata,” Adivi says. She was recently alerted to a marketing agency that claimed it had targeted and “hijacked” r/SkincareAddiction to promote an unknown Korean beauty brand and to rank on Google; Adivi removed the Reddit thread the agency used and added the brand to the keyword filtering list. Moderators are also strict about who gets to do sanctioned Ask Me Anything-style threads: It has to benefit the community, not serve as a platform to shill for your company. In the old SEO days, everyone knew that backlinks were important — in the age of AEO (“answer engine optimization”) or GEO (“generative engine optimization”), marketers are throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks. So they keep coming back to Reddit.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“With AEO right now, no one knows exactly how to do it, and everyone tells you how important Reddit is,” Adivi, who has a marketing background, says.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Google has <a href="https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-policies">its own rules</a> around spam and manipulating its systems. In an email, Google spokesperson Jennifer Kutz acknowledged there is high- and low-quality content on forums like Reddit, just as in other formats; Kutz says Google’s systems are designed to detect when user-generated content is helpful or low quality. Kutz also said that Google’s AI search features don’t aim to display content from any specific site or platform, and that Reddit “gets no special preference” in Google’s ranking system.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“There will always be bad actors trying to game the system — in fact, spamming predates the internet — and fighting spam is a core expertise for us,” Kutz told <em>The Verge </em>in an email. “We have strong protections against manipulation across Search, including our AI features, and we’ve kept results 99% spam-free for years.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Reddit becoming the main character of search is amusing in some ways — only in 2024 did the company introduce <a href="https://redditinc.com/news/introducing-the-new-toolkit-for-business-growth-reddit-pro-is-here">native tools</a> to help businesses grow their presence on the platform. Google has long used a website’s “authority” in its soup of search result ranking signals; Reddit, with its anonymous users and fiefdom moderation ecosystem, turns the idea of trustworthiness on its head. Reddit’s user-generated content — <a href="https://www.searchenginejournal.com/reddit-ceo-llms-would-not-exist-without-reddit-data/575786/">mountains of which LLMs have been trained on</a> — is trusted precisely because it seems to come from nowhere in particular.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">As a result of Reddit’s growing influence, the website’s legions of unpaid volunteer moderators have suddenly found themselves in a unique position: The communities they oversee and nurture are now potentially very valuable, not just to the people who love skincare and indie music but also to the brands and companies that profit from those fandoms. As advertisers and the SEO industry <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/900302/ai-seo-industry-google-search-chatgpt-gemini-marketing">tweak their tactics for showing up in AI search</a>, new segments of the internet must begin to reconcile being hyper-visible online and the weirdness that attention elicits.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Complaints about potential LLM-related spam and promotional content pop up in a diverse array of subreddits: A user on r/CleaningTips <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CleaningTips/comments/1u0dxjh/meta_subreddit_rule_proposal_ban_product_name/">questioned</a> whether the subreddit needs a ban on product names; another user <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/comments/1mh1u9i/ysk_old_reddit_threads_many_from_this_sub_are/">warned</a> the popular r/BuyItForLife community that it was being “brigaded by ad bots to skew Google and AI search results.” In its rules against self-promotion, r/FoodNYC specifically calls out brands targeting and commenting on old posts. A moderator of r/salestechniques <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/salestechniques/comments/1qtcjpn/name_and_shame_companies_that_spam_are_low/">posted</a> a “name and shame” thread filled with brands they said were astroturfing the subreddit. Reddit itself has acknowledged the new kinds of spam. In early July, the company <a href="https://redditinc.com/news/how-were-keeping-reddit-real-and-safe-in-the-ai-era">announced</a> it was beefing up its spam detection tools with AI and LLMs to better catch “the highly subtle, coordinated patterns of fake behavior and artificial hype.” The company said it is catching 25,000 spammy posts and comments and blocking 23 million spam views a day as a result.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“In Reddit’s 21 years, one constant has been that spam tactics continually evolve as new technologies emerge,” Jared Nelson, senior director of global corporate reputation communications at the company, told <em>The Verge </em>in an email. “Every time bad actors change their playbook, we strengthen ours.”</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>Reddit says that roughly 40 percent of discussions on the platform are commercial in nature</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Nelson declined to name specific signals its systems look for, saying Reddit didn’t want to give bad actors a playbook for evading detection. Nelson said the company evaluates accounts when they’re created, looks for coordinated manipulation across accounts and conversations, and uses platform activity and user reports to improve detection.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Some brands have taken to spinning up their own subreddits where the company itself moderates the community in an attempt to boost a brand’s presence on the platform. Reddit and Wikipedia — places where brands can’t simply dump their press releases — have become top of mind, says Mike Moschella, director of analytics at DKC, a marketing and PR firm.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Reddit is tricky, right? You can&#8217;t bullshit Reddit,” Moschella says. In a world where consumers are looking for answers to their highly specific, personalized questions, brands should be able to make their pitch more clearly to consumers instead of repeating the same lofty, imprecise promises of offering the best product in their category, he says. (Shopping is a huge part of Reddit: Nelson told <em>The Verge</em> that roughly 40 percent of discussions on the platform are commercial in nature.)</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“The starting point of all business analytics is this idea that you can have a better price, you have better service, or you can have better quality, but you can&#8217;t have all three,” Moschella says. “If you say [your company’s stock] is the best stock ever in the universe, you can issue that press release a million times, but WallStreetBets [the subreddit] isn&#8217;t going to buy it if the fundamentals don&#8217;t agree.” Reddit should force brands to be more “honest and authentic,&#8221; Moschella says — at least in an ideal world.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Whether that’s actually happening is another question. It’s not just skincare subreddits feeling the effects of the brave new world of search. <em>404 Media </em><a href="https://www.404media.co/companies-are-using-reddit-to-manipulate-chatgpt-and-google-ai-search/">reported</a> in June that biohacking subreddits were dealing with an onslaught of promotional spam about <a href="https://www.theverge.com/column/866577/optimizer-peptides-compounding-pharmacies-glp-3-retatrutide-influencers-wellness-wild-west">peptides</a>. On the weightloss subreddit r/loseit, Dan, a moderator, has gone all in on trying to spot and clean up advertiser content disguised as authentic activity. (Dan asked <em>The Verge </em>to use his first name only to protect his privacy as a moderator of a large subreddit.)&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">On r/loseit, Dan has come across covert advertiser material for everything from food scanning apps and body scanning scales to GLP-1 providers. (Moderators have compiled a “shit list of brands” that they believe are trying to secretly advertise, Dan says. Those brand mentions are automatically filtered from the subreddit.) A normal person isn’t precious about how they talk about a new smartwatch they got — they might not even mention the exact brand, Dan says. Brands, on the other hand, are cramming in keywords, using exact names, and discussing products in a positive light.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“The main advantage that we have as people who are trying to stop [brands] from advertising is that they&#8217;ve got an agenda that a normal poster doesn&#8217;t have, and that is usually fundamentally what shines through and that&#8217;s how we spot them,” he says.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Dan has also seen more and more posts he believes are AI-generated, based on certain tells: The final paragraph of a post beginning with “I’m curious to know,” for example. Between auto-moderation tools and community members proactively reporting suspected ads, r/loseit moderators are able to filter out much of the marketers attempting to promote their products.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“We want it to be human to human because that&#8217;s why I liked that subreddit anyway,” Dan says. “I found it very good for people to speak to one another outside of somewhere that&#8217;s constantly advertising to you.”</p>

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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Self-promotional spam on Reddit had been happening for years, of course, to varying degrees of success. But this era of AI search manipulation comes at a time when audiences are looking for a reason to be suspicious of what they see online.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And who can blame them? Practices that have become commonplace in marketing have slowly trickled into public consciousness: <a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/920005/social-media-clipping-podcasts-clavicular-marketing-mrbeast">paid “clipping” campaigns</a> meant to maximize reach on short-form video feeds; bot farms spun up for PR damage control; brands <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/954145/those-doordash-and-t-pain-world-cup-tweets-were-a-partnership">pulling marketing stunts</a> that are later revealed as ad campaigns. “The feed is fake,” <em>Vulture</em> <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/social-media-feeds-chaotic-good-projects-clipping.html">declared</a> of Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. Reddit was supposed to be different. Adding “reddit” to the end of search terms was a way for users to signal they wanted an answer unburdened by <a href="https://www.theverge.com/c/23998379/google-search-seo-algorithm-webpage-optimization">the SEO slop that had come to fill the web</a>; so trusted was Reddit content that it has become shorthand for “actually useful.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This spring, <a href="https://www.wordsfromeliza.com/p/fake-fans">reports</a> <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/geese-chaotic-good-marketing-industry-plant/">circulated</a> that a marketing agency was behind some of the social media frenzy surrounding the indie rock band Geese. The behind-the-scenes involvement of the agency prompted some feelings of betrayal from the band’s fans, and the dustup became its own news cycle in music and entertainment communities — was Geese a “psyop”? Was all the fandom actually just fake engagement? Several years ago, moderators of <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/">the popular subreddit r/indieheads</a> had caught a major record label spamming and promoting its own artists in threads, says Matty Monroe, one of the moderators. The commotion around Geese prompted Monroe and others to take another look. Moderators uncovered four accounts within a week that <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/1t05l9u/mod_post_an_update_about_record_labels_posting_on/">they believe secretly belonged</a> to indie record labels.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“All their history was just posting and commenting about artists on their own labels and nothing else,” Monroe says. The accounts had throwaway random usernames and would swoop into threads mentioning artists on their labels. One especially suspicious comment went something like, “I can&#8217;t wait to preorder this [record] on Coral Green vinyl.” It sounded, Monroe says, like something a social media manager would post on their brand’s account. (He would know. Monroe also works as a marketing coordinator for a music distribution company.)</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“We ended up getting into contact with one of those labels being like, ‘Hey, we know that you work here, so can we not do this please?’” As a compromise, r/indieheads moderators launched <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/1tq7urj/mod_post_unveiling_our_first_batch_of_verified/">a label verification process</a> that allowed record labels to participate in the subreddit while clearly identifying themselves to the public. Dozens of labels <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/1tq7urj/mod_post_unveiling_our_first_batch_of_verified/">have signed up</a> so far.</p>

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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It’s not clear whether labels are jumping into r/indieheads because LLMs are citing Reddit, or if the activity is for general marketing and fan engagement purposes. But even without AI search, music subreddits like r/indieheads have become influential, precisely because people trust Reddit as a neutral platform not yet filled purely with ads. r/indieheads has become one of the “last games in town” when it comes to indie music marketing, Monroe says, as traditional publications have shuttered or pulled back their coverage.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Part of what makes Reddit feel useful is that readers feel like they can find actual advice, product recommendations, or a new band to listen to without someone’s thumb on the scale. After the Geese incident, some music fans seemed to feel uncomfortable with the idea that their new favorite band had been artificially placed in front of them on their feeds — “Was my liking this music <em>also</em> artificial?” some worried. It’s an understandable reaction, Monroe emphasizes. But all the bots and user-generated advertiser content in the world can’t place bodies in a stadium for a sold-out tour.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“What I do hope comes out of this all is just people realizing there&#8217;s certain things you can&#8217;t fake in the industry,” Monroe says. You also can’t astroturf your way into making listeners connect emotionally with music.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">On the flip side, the prevalence of stealth marketing campaigns could end up backfiring for everyone involved, not just the brands deploying anonymous accounts. Adivi, the moderator of r/SkincareAddiction, says that often it’s the lesser-known brands behaving “egregiously” in their marketing. Skincare subreddits have <a href="https://www.glossy.co/beauty/how-stratia-skin-leveraged-reddit-to-become-a-multi-million-dollar-brand/">helped to propel smaller brands</a> into cult favorites, but the market has changed so much — and the subreddit has had to clamp down so much on moderation — that Adivi wonders if a new viral Reddit-approved upstart could ever take off the way they used to be able to.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“The unfortunate thing is it does mean I end up being more suspicious of smaller brands, even though I would love to see more small brands out in the world,” she says.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In June, UK staff at the nonprofit that runs Wikipedia became the first to <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/956237/wikipedia-wikimedia-foundation-staff-unionization-volunteer-editor-strike">announce their intention to form a union</a>. Now, US-based employees at the Wikimedia Foundation are joining the union drive, but management at the nonprofit has declined to voluntarily recognize their union.</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“While the Wikimedia Foundation touts to the public that they plan to take a neutral stance in our organizing efforts, they have already proven that not to be the case behind the scenes,” a press release sent by Communications Workers of America, with which Wiki Workers United is affiliated, <a href="https://cwa-union.org/news/releases/wiki-workers-united-uscwa-will-file-nlrb-election-after-wikimedia-foundation-declines">reads in part</a>. “When the Foundation rejected our request for voluntary recognition this week, they immediately sent out to employees and the public statements couched in classic union-busting rhetoric, rhetoric undoubtedly provided by outrageously expensive union-avoidance law firms. This insulting and wasteful use of Foundation resources is both an insult to Foundation employees and to the Free Knowledge Movement as a whole.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In a public statement, the foundation <a href="https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2026/07/27/statement-cwa-recognition-request/">said</a> it believes a secret ballot election with the NLRB is the “appropriate path forward.”</p>

<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The unionization efforts come at a time when tensions are high between the foundation and the thousands of unpaid volunteers who edit, write, and maintain Wikipedia. In May, hundreds of Wikipedia editors <a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/939442/wikipedia-editors-protest-wikimedia-layoffs-strike">threatened to go on strike</a> after the foundation dissolved an engineering team that worked closely with volunteers. Some volunteers questioned whether the layoffs were related to union efforts, which the foundation denied.</p>
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